NLnet grants are the only example that comes to mind. But these are short term, not sustaining.
Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
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Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#22I myself am the beneficiary of many open-source projects. I readily acknowledge this. That said, where my mind keeps going to is that open-source software is in many ways similar to communism. And communism failed for a reason . If you want to freely give away your work, then by all means - do so. But do so with the understanding that you are promised absolutely nothing in return. No one owes you anything. This man w…
I fully agree with your statements that nobody is owed anything if they give their work/time to a cause. But it doesn’t give a free pass to others to demand work/fixes/time, or have a sense of entitlement, to that work, and become belligerent towards those that are giving their work to them.
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#23I wonder if many maintainers who end up feeling this way about open-source were ever good fits for open-source to begin with. At the same time, it's hard to say I wouldn't feel the same way as Denis if I maintained a project as popular as core-js thanklessly. I would like to think I'd have the power to just walk away once I realized it was unhealthy for me.
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#24I do wonder if the author asked zloirock if they're allowed to use the Github profile picture for that blog entry
Thank you !
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#25I myself am the beneficiary of many open-source projects. I readily acknowledge this. That said, where my mind keeps going to is that open-source software is in many ways similar to communism. And communism failed for a reason . If you want to freely give away your work, then by all means - do so. But do so with the understanding that you are promised absolutely nothing in return. No one owes you anything. This man w…
It's really a shame he missed the opportunity to gain popularity from this project. He just built and released it, without doing any sort of promotion or whatsoever.
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#26A slightly more nuanced but equally confounding position is: "I'd give you money, sure, but your license doesn't require it, so go piss up a rope buddy".
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#27I am honestly just left wondering why core JS is still around? What am I missing?
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#28Back in the 90s I wrote a window docking system library for Delphi. It was shareware, not open source, and it brought in about £1000 a month.
It was the support that killed me. So many people doing really weird things with it I had never thought about. Was it my bug or theirs?
The bottom line is that one person can't maintain something in their spare time that a lot of other people rely on.
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#29I know of three open-source projects in recent times that have made it to the frontpage of HN for reasons concerning funding (Babel, Faker, and now Core-JS). Coincidentally, they are all JS/Node projects. I wonder if many maintainers who end up feeling this way about open-source were ever good fits for open-source to begin with. At the same time, it's hard to say I wouldn't feel the same way as Denis if I maintained…
He’s single handedly maintaining IE and adding new features. It’s extra thankless because he’s not contributing a product feature to the person using it, but a compatibility layer to the system developers are targeting. He puts systems into a state they should already be in.
Re: Open-source is broken: the sad story of Denis Pushkarev (core-JS)
#30It's not broken. Publishing and sharing something for free under free terms, and then attempting to pull the rug after two years of gaining popularity is.
It’s more a service than a program.