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Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Kalium wrote: post #25
CSMastermind wrote: post #22

I've posted on Hackernews before mentioning that I grew up in East Palestine and my entire immediate and most of my extended family either live in the town itself or within 20 miles. It's been surreal to see this event unplay in the media. Some things I haven't seen talked about: 1. How desperately poor most of the population in that area is. My fear is that if the crash has long terms effects people will never get j…

A quick search (it was the first hit for train derailment tracker) brings up this: https://safetydata.fra.dot.gov/officeofsafety/publicsite/que... Having poked at it a bit, it does seem happy to spit out a list of train derailments sliced and diced in quite a few different ways.

The data on the site is fascinating, and can be downloaded as CSV, XLS, etc. (I live about 100m from a rail corridor, and though I love trains, I do worry occasionally about accidents).

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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prox wrote: post #103
culi wrote: post #91

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People really underestimate how much 2 or 3 community members who don't have to worry about working or making rent and focus solely on this issue can get done If we could have something like a community strike fund that could be payed back into when/if their case is won, I'd happily donate while I have a stable job. Who knows, maybe some day I'll be in some affected community that could make use of such a fund

I would chip in. That’s a great idea!

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Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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version_five wrote: post #18
trpv wrote: post #17

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Those “weird white deposits” are normal and have always been a thing. The rainwater evaporates but leaves some minerals behind

There are minerals in rainwater? It's effectively distilled, no? How does it get minerals?

Maybe it picks up dirt particles from the air. In my experience, stuff that gets rained on can sometimes acquire dirt that it wouldn't otherwise have. If ky clothes are drenched from the rain, I throw them in the laundry instead of considering them clean.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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thatguy0900 wrote: post #92
trpv wrote: post #60

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What does the derailment have to do with politics? (serious question, I don't follow news or politics)

Well the president just told rail workers they couldn't strike like a month ago. They wanted to strike because of unsafe working conditions and skeleton crews and crazy shifts. But I'm not really sure it's a political issue, both parties are on the side of the railroad owners here. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/02/biden-signs-bill-averting-ra...

It's definitely a political issue, but there's no party tugging on the side of safety for railroad workers.

This is the result of deregulation by both parties, and corporate greed cutting costs on safety margins in order to make more profits.

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Post by mcv »

mikeyouse wrote: post #53
bushbaba wrote: post #37

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Or that Biden used federal authority to quash the railroad union protests for better wages as safer conditions.

I mean, Biden brokered a deal to avert the strike, worked with the house and senate to craft a law guaranteeing the railworkers the benefits they were seeking which was then filibustered by senate republicans, but that's apparently too complicated or politically inconvenient for HN to understand so they pretend like stopping the strike was the end of that story. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3758436-senate-reje…

Wasn't it an amendment that Sanders added to Biden's bill, was blocked by Republicans, and then enough Democrats voted for the bill despite the fact that it didn't include Sanders' amendment that should have been part of it from the start?

Everybody who voted for it bears the blame for taking away the railroad workers' rights.

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Post by everforward »

dkokelley wrote: post #23

I'm pretty worried about this. The fallout/plume won't just be isolated to a region we can avoid or mitigate. It's in our waterways and in our air. I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now we can detect it all around the world. We might not know the full extent of the disaster for many years.

I'd be surprised. Doing quick napkin math, there were very roughly 4.710^30 particles of vinyl chloride released. Google says there are 4.610^46 molecules of water in the ocean (I can't vouch for that). So the concentration would be something like 0.0000000001 ppm.

And that's only counting the ocean, not air or freshwater or dirt.

I don't know if that's in the realm of detectable, but I think it's certainly not significant.

The local effects could be bad, but I don't think there will be any kind of global effects.

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