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Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

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Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

#21

This is probably how children in the future will study. It's much easier to forget what one reads in books than to forget 1-1 conversations with people. Just add deepfake video/audio and VR/AR as well.

Like when Captain Janeway went to the holodeck to have a chat with the holographic synthetic Leonardo Da Vinci.

I was thinking also when Geordi LaForge created Leah Brahmes to learn more about the Enterprise's engines... that didn't lead to ANY problems!

Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

#23

This is probably how children in the future will study. It's much easier to forget what one reads in books than to forget 1-1 conversations with people. Just add deepfake video/audio and VR/AR as well.

I absolutely don’t think so. This is a hype period. It will absolutely end, it may help shape the future but it won’t make it or be in it.

Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

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Essentially this is the first step to talking to dead people long after they’re gone. Just use a person’s lifetime of written text as the basis for building an AI of them. Get the stylometry right. No reason why you can’t have a twitter account keep posting after you’re dead.

Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

#25
I've been working on a manual version of this for many months now [0]. I read books of historical figures, then create fictional but accurate conversations with them based on the books. And I always include full citations so people know it's accurate.

I think releasing a purely AI version of this is not feasible at the moment, because of the obvious issue of hallucinations. It's not an educational product if it's giving people false information. In fact, it's actively harmful. And it's sad that people are trying to cash in on the AI hype without any regard for the accuracy of their content.

[0] https://dkbshow.substack.com/

Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

#27
post #3

I don't like the framing of 'learn something new' because you are very likely to have falsehoods presented to you as reliable facts. Its fun to ask Marie Curie what she thinks about blockchains, but anything you ask about her own life and work is just as likely to be fiction as whatever she says about blockchains.

See, for instance, the conversations in this thread with figures like Henry Ford, Ronald Reagan, and Lyndon Johnson: https://twitter.com/ZaneGTCooper/status/1615577714836275200

I agree with the original point, but giving an answer that shows yourself in the most favorable light seems like what these bots should be doing. Despite the innaccuracies, I think that's pretty much the angle someone like Reagan would take if confronted now about those events.

Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

#29

Related, but different startup with prior comments: Character.ai - (282 points, 4 months ago, 139 comments) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33020694

holy moly, how did character.ai fly past me? It's not even chat GPT derived, these are the lambda folks!

Re: Chat with Historical Figures Using AI – Learn from the Past in a Fun New Way

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

honestly, the $20/month subscription fee made me raise an eyebrow, especially considering that the likely implementation is "add a prompt that took 5 seconds to write and 20 seconds to tweak to the top of every request".

If the bot needs to retain conversation memory, it will cost around 4 cents per message once the conversation gets long enough. I guess they are also inspired by chat gpt plus prices. Source: I am building a competitor

how long is that? back of the envelope suggests that breaks even around 500 messages at max price
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