It seems very strange that they'd rather burn the vinyl chloride instead of attempting to capture or recover it, both from an environmental and economic perspective.
It boils at 7.88°F. It sounds like without pressurization or chilling the risk of an explosive release was deemed higher than the risk of burning it.
Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger
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Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Horseshoe theory. Both the extreme left and the extreme right has reason to doubt/oppose the current political establishment.
The nice thing about extremists is that they're sufficiently non-invested in making the status quo look good that they're happy to point out when it's shit. Frankly I really like the extremists on both sides of the isle. While I might vehemently disagree with them on specifics they are at least generally principled people who derive their policy positions from their beliefs logically and I have respect for that.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
An idea I've had for a while now is to put together a site like GoFundMe, specifically to crowdsource funding for people who couldn't otherwise afford legal representation. This is absolutely a good use case for such a project.
People really underestimate how much 2 or 3 community members who don't have to worry about working or making rent and focus solely on this issue can get done If we could have something like a community strike fund that could be payed back into when/if their case is won, I'd happily donate while I have a stable job. Who knows, maybe some day I'll be in some affected community that could make use of such a fund
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could easily rephrase your comment as "Biden took away their only option for self-directed action and then passed the buck to an organization known for doing nothing." Sometimes complexity doesn't actually add anything useful :) Focusing on the DC play-by-play is good for convincing yourself the other team is at fault, and not much else.
Sure, you could rephrase it to something inaccurate if it was your prerogative to "both sides" something that failed almost entirely along party lines after attracting the support of several very conservative senators. I'm not sure what value that adds though :)
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Since you have family in the area maybe you can answer this question: What do people need and is there anything that can be done to help them?
This will be an unsatisfying answer. Thanks to my job as a software engineer I felt like I was in the position to help people financially but the dozens of people I've asked at this point have all told me the same thing: 1. Their immediate needs are taken care of. The ones who got evacuated were put up in hotels at first and have tons of support from local organizations. The ones who were more than 1 mile away genera…
Trying to think constructively here, maybe third party Chemical Testing for residuals would provide these people with some peace of mind.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other person who posted a viral video of the water with an oil-like sheen was US Senator JD Vance, who is... ahh... well, basically the furthest thing from what the other Twitter poster put out.
JD Vance has a similar motivation for making the current administration take the flak for it, so I would also take him with a grain of salt.
The FAA budget for example stated a priority for “equity” and inclusion. Shouldn’t the priority be air fucking safety? The FAA is a mess right now. And it’s Buttigieg’s fault. But at least we were able to spend millions changing “airmen” to “air missions” in the NOTAM system — all while doing nothing to actually fix the NOTAM system. Now the FAA also wants to stop people from using the term “cockpit” — not realizing that there is nothing in the history of that word that is “gendered.” Just stupidity and madness. JD Vance is right to hammer the administration: while DoT is worrying about gendered language, trains are derailing with toxic chemicals and planes are nearly crashing because of faulty ATC.
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I'm not trying to be unreasonable but if this was a school shooting everyone would be calling for the ban of all guns. The scale of this is vastly greater, yet the reaction is just unfathomable to me given the scale of this disaster. Again, not trying to stir anything. Just an observation.
What would you like to ban, trains? There's already massive safety measures. If they weren't followed then that needs to be addressed.
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>> and if this happened just outside Atlanta, it would be all over the news for the next month..and senators would call it racial injustice. This is quite the stretch. When was the last time you heard, on the news, that Jackson Mississippi still doesn’t have clean water? Because they still don’t have clean water, haven’t for months, and are also a demographic where it could be spun as “racial injustice”
You are trying to compare a large toxin spill against a municipal failing to upgrade their infrastructure. This is similar to Flint, MI. If you want to compare Jackson, MS..it’s 82% black (which is why you brought it up) in which its own state calls it the murder capital of the world. It appears they have a lot of city related issues including misappropriation of funds.
Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other person who posted a viral video of the water with an oil-like sheen was US Senator JD Vance, who is... ahh... well, basically the furthest thing from what the other Twitter poster put out.
Horseshoe theory. Both the extreme left and the extreme right has reason to doubt/oppose the current political establishment.
Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger
#110I'm pretty worried about this. The fallout/plume won't just be isolated to a region we can avoid or mitigate. It's in our waterways and in our air. I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now we can detect it all around the world. We might not know the full extent of the disaster for many years.
My unresearched hunch is that your concern is under-appreciating how big the Earth is.