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Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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> Water samples on Friday showed the plume is now completely gone, DeWine said.

I saw an unverified video linked on reddit that alleged to show that the contaminants sink to the bottom of water [1]. Could this be the reason why the water does not appear contaminated?

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/11480zm/east_palest...

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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> Water samples on Friday showed the plume is now completely gone, DeWine said. I saw an unverified video linked on reddit that alleged to show that the contaminants sink to the bottom of water [1]. Could this be the reason why the water does not appear contaminated? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/11480zm/east_palest...

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone just stirring up the water.

(as also mentioned in the Reddit comments, the fact that the Twitter poster is a staunch North Korea supporter should make people evaluate the context of this video a little more critically -- I don't mean they can't be right, but they are at least pushing this with a certain agenda)

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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post #3

> Water samples on Friday showed the plume is now completely gone, DeWine said. I saw an unverified video linked on reddit that alleged to show that the contaminants sink to the bottom of water [1]. Could this be the reason why the water does not appear contaminated? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/11480zm/east_palest...

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone j…

The other person who posted a viral video of the water with an oil-like sheen was US Senator JD Vance, who is... ahh... well, basically the furthest thing from what the other Twitter poster put out.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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post #3

> Water samples on Friday showed the plume is now completely gone, DeWine said. I saw an unverified video linked on reddit that alleged to show that the contaminants sink to the bottom of water [1]. Could this be the reason why the water does not appear contaminated? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/11480zm/east_palest...

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone j…

I'm not trying to be unreasonable but if this was a school shooting everyone would be calling for the ban of all guns.

The scale of this is vastly greater, yet the reaction is just unfathomable to me given the scale of this disaster.

Again, not trying to stir anything. Just an observation.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone j…

The other person who posted a viral video of the water with an oil-like sheen was US Senator JD Vance, who is... ahh... well, basically the furthest thing from what the other Twitter poster put out.

Horseshoe theory. Both the extreme left and the extreme right has reason to doubt/oppose the current political establishment.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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post #5
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone j…

I'm not trying to be unreasonable but if this was a school shooting everyone would be calling for the ban of all guns. The scale of this is vastly greater, yet the reaction is just unfathomable to me given the scale of this disaster. Again, not trying to stir anything. Just an observation.

> The scale of this is vastly greater

The probable human deaths from this spill is a number somewhere between zero and 10 over decades.

That's a massive difference from a mass-casualty shooting.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone j…

The other person who posted a viral video of the water with an oil-like sheen was US Senator JD Vance, who is... ahh... well, basically the furthest thing from what the other Twitter poster put out.

JD Vance has a similar motivation for making the current administration take the flak for it, so I would also take him with a grain of salt.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other person who posted a viral video of the water with an oil-like sheen was US Senator JD Vance, who is... ahh... well, basically the furthest thing from what the other Twitter poster put out.

Horseshoe theory. Both the extreme left and the extreme right has reason to doubt/oppose the current political establishment.

The nice thing about extremists is that they're sufficiently non-invested in making the status quo look good that they're happy to point out when it's shit.

Frankly I really like the extremists on both sides of the isle. While I might vehemently disagree with them on specifics they are at least generally principled people who derive their policy positions from their beliefs logically and I have respect for that.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to be unreasonable but if this was a school shooting everyone would be calling for the ban of all guns. The scale of this is vastly greater, yet the reaction is just unfathomable to me given the scale of this disaster. Again, not trying to stir anything. Just an observation.

> The scale of this is vastly greater The probable human deaths from this spill is a number somewhere between zero and 10 over decades. That's a massive difference from a mass-casualty shooting.

Does that count the people that may die early of cancer in decades to come?
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