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Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #9
gruez wrote: post #6

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Horseshoe theory. Both the extreme left and the extreme right has reason to doubt/oppose the current political establishment.

The nice thing about extremists is that they're sufficiently non-invested in making the status quo look good that they're happy to point out when it's shit. Frankly I really like the extremists on both sides of the isle. While I might vehemently disagree with them on specifics they are at least generally principled people who derive their policy positions from their beliefs logically and I have respect for that.

But they'll also happily claim that the status quo is terrible even when it is in fact objectively quite good.

Re your second paragraph: Things that logically derive from insane starting points can still be insane. Often are, in fact. When they are right, they are right only by random accident. I'm not saying "don't read them", but don't use what they say to adjust your priors very much.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by version_five »

tormeh wrote: post #26
version_five wrote: post #18

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There are minerals in rainwater? It's effectively distilled, no? How does it get minerals?

Yes, but as with acid rain, rain can contain some non-waterthings, I think.

No doubt, but presumably those non water things are all things that evaporate, so wouldn't get left behind then the rain dries. The rain would have to pick up something up on the way down for it to contain something that precipitates out. That could be dust or soot, I'm not sure what else, but any minerals would have to come in that way

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

nobaddays wrote: post #34
version_five wrote: post #32

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The unions desperately wanted to fix the problems that lead to stuff like this and Biden forced them not to strike so I can’t see how unions would be the problem here.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

bombcar wrote: post #38
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #36

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The left is downplaying it because it happened on their guy's watch, and he's not doing much about it. In fact, the Biden administration just said that Ohio wouldn't get any disaster money for this. So either the derailment's consequences are nothing, or the left's guy is ineffective at dealing with the real world. The left therefore chooses to say (and even think?) that the problems are nothing.

This is exactly it and it’s so sad to watch. Had it happened under trump the sides would have been switched.

Yeah unfortunately the media in the US just overplays every bad thing that happens under someone they don’t like and underplays the bad when their guy is in office.

But corporate media is just bad so I guess that’s about all we can expect.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by anigbrowl »

version_five wrote: post #32

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the left is so keen to downplay it

As one of HN's resident leftists, I drew attention to the story early and it got little traction. While the right has indeed begun screaming loudly about it, calling it an attack on white people and so on (Charlie Kirk@TPUSA, Jesse Watters@Fox, Benny Johnson@Newsmax have all made such claims in the last 48 hours), refuting their claims is not the same as saying the incident is not important.

It is, and I think both the Ohio and federal governments have done a poor job of addressing it, notwithstanding the slow-moving nature of the disaster.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by FpUser »

vore wrote: post #3
jerry1979 wrote: post #2

> Water samples on Friday showed the plume is now completely gone, DeWine said. I saw an unverified video linked on reddit that alleged to show that the contaminants sink to the bottom of water [1]. Could this be the reason why the water does not appear contaminated? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/11480zm/east_palest...

I don't mean to downplay the disaster, but just because there's a sheen that appears when disturbing the creekbed doesn't indicate it's a result of the contamination from the disaster or even petroleum-related contamination at all: for instance, bacteria can form a similar oil-like sheen on water. I don't think it's possible to conclude anything without sampling the water, and definitely not from a video of someone j…

>"he fact that the Twitter poster is a staunch North Korea supporter should make people evaluate the context of this video a little more critically"

I've heard Putin saying that the sky is blue. Now I have to wear colored glasses.

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by s5300 »

codeddesign wrote: post #30
hanselot wrote: post #5

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I'm not trying to be unreasonable but if this was a school shooting everyone would be calling for the ban of all guns. The scale of this is vastly greater, yet the reaction is just unfathomable to me given the scale of this disaster. Again, not trying to stir anything. Just an observation.

and if this happened just outside Atlanta, it would be all over the news for the next month..and senators would call it racial injustice. Not to mention every govt agency on site. Train derailments happen regularly every week, but not to this extent. It’ll be an ecological disaster. The water may be fine now, but no so much in a month. Ground water seepage takes time.

>> and if this happened just outside Atlanta, it would be all over the news for the next month..and senators would call it racial injustice.

This is quite the stretch.

When was the last time you heard, on the news, that Jackson Mississippi still doesn’t have clean water?

Because they still don’t have clean water, haven’t for months, and are also a demographic where it could be spun as “racial injustice”

Re: Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger

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Post by krolden »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #36
version_five wrote: post #32

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The left is downplaying it because it happened on their guy's watch, and he's not doing much about it. In fact, the Biden administration just said that Ohio wouldn't get any disaster money for this. So either the derailment's consequences are nothing, or the left's guy is ineffective at dealing with the real world. The left therefore chooses to say (and even think?) that the problems are nothing.

He's far from 'our guy'.
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