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Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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why aren't more people just running Fennec? it supports all plugins which are supported by desktop and is available from F-droid.

> it supports all plugins which are supported by desktop

Without faffing around with a Mozilla login or "collections" or anything like that? Just browse AMO[1] and hit "Add to Firefox"?

[1]: https://addons.mozilla.org

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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I love the entire *Monkey family. I've been able to prototype so many, "And this is what our website could do if we..." things at work using it, plus create custom filters for selected online forums, etc. My favorite at the moment is one that can strip out long signatures from posts on mgexp.com, as well as let me selectively block/hide some threads. Also, not *Monkey script, but still running the custom HN avatar pe…

It's too late to add comments to the original thread, but I put together a variation that incorporates all of the suggestions from the comments, plus a couple of tweaks of my own (run on all HN pages, add an avatar to your username in the top bar) and made it available here: https://github.com/nfriedly/hn-avatars/

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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I agree, Mozilla has been on a very weird path since then. Not sure Eich would have made a positive difference though. Brave's main claim to fame is that they took Chromium and added an ad blocker. At the same time, they dabble(d?) in injecting ads and crypto, to just name the shady things I know about. I suppose there just isn't much money in building a non-compromising browser, and Mozilla is struggling with this p…

Well the whole point was that there wasn't supposed to be any money in building it. That's why Mozilla is a nonprofit (in theory at least). Originally the idea was that enough companies and individuals would donate to support its development as a common interest, because obviously people want a good private browser, right? Now the status quo has shifted to a big corporation making money off of peoples' browsing habit…

Much in this world would be better if we donated to what ought be a public service. If browser vendors didn't have to chase profits, perhaps they wouldn't be so user-hostile, and the same principle applies to most software I'd say.

That we don't have a world where this is possible is in my opinion both a cultural and political failure. What if every person on HN gave 1% of their income to various open source projects they use? What if we made this a cultural norm, and you'd be shamed if you didn't?

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Web developers are, indeed a tiny fraction of the overall userbase for web browsers. Why browser makers might want to cater to their needs anyway is left as an exercise for the reader.

Why browser makers might not want to cater to web developers wanting to use a keyboard on a platform that is used at 99.9% through touch controls, platform on which we both know they neither develop on (when is the last time you made a website on your tablet?) or even test on, is indeed left as an exercise for the reader.

Testing websites on actual mobile devices is generally advisable. Testing them in a niche browser, perhaps not so much, but more people will if that browser makes it easy.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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>> The campaign And this really is the crux, isn't it: 1. a political campaign inside Mozilla 2. by some employees that interpreted risk that 3. his donations were an attack on what they perceived as their rights 4. and this made him unable to fulfill the role of CTO That's a whole lot of one-side conclusions to get to "he's unfit to be the CTO". No wonder he left.

What do you think "they" should have done? This was all discussed at the time: the campaign against his appointment was far from just being "inside Mozilla". And "what they perceived as their rights" are now actual civil and legal rights because US society decided that was the right thing to do.

You mean because five unelected judges decided

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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What do you think "they" should have done? This was all discussed at the time: the campaign against his appointment was far from just being "inside Mozilla". And "what they perceived as their rights" are now actual civil and legal rights because US society decided that was the right thing to do.

You mean because five unelected judges decided

That's a good point— gay rights are pretty precariously situated and it seems a bit premature to celebrate their status as set in stone at this point.

But Democrats who run in elections and appoint judges seem to generally like being able to point to the courts as a risk, and show little interest in legally bolstering civil rights when they have the power to, so it'll probably stay as it is... until it doesn't, just like with Roe and Casey.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Greasemonkey was the good one and then something happened with it and it was no longer the best choice. I'm not sure what. The same repeated with Tampermonkey. It now has telemetry built into it, at one time w/ no privacy policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6hs59w/tampermonke... The good one now is Violentmonkey. Has been for some time. Does Mozilla have an allowlist for these? If so I don't like it.

I agree with most of your comment, but just a quick note that whether or not a service provides a privacy policy doesn't mean they necessarily do anything to protect users' privacy. (Mostly in the sense that if they did have one, that fact wouldn't mean much on its own.)

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Yeah, I remember before they removed all addons, they had over 20% market share on mobile. Those were the days.

What did those people switch to? I can't imagine browsing without ubo, what other options do I have?

Kiwi can run ubo and pretty much any chrome extension.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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what's the difference between the old and new firefox android browser? is it a separate codebase? different UI?

Completely new codebase yeah. The old codebase is known as Fennec and is directly based on Gecko (the browser engine that powers desktop Firefox). All the same advantages. The UI wasn't excellent, but it did the job perfectly well. The new codebase is known as Fenix and is instead based on GeckoView which isn't an actual browser but rather an library version of Gecko that is intended to replace Androids own System We…

> The old codebase is known as Fennec

Note: So is the F-Droid build of the new codebase[1].

[1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Greasemonkey still works in recent Firefox versions.

It does, now, but its developer took a really long time in porting, in that time TamperMonkey was developed and had really gained popularity.

So it might actually still be the best choice.
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