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The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by spookie »

imiric wrote: post #14

I'm not worried about AI replacing content creators. If anything, it will make the low effort bot generated content all platforms have been filled with for years now at least somewhat more interesting. What I'll be annoyed by is the amount of it that will exist, which will make finding high quality content made by humans much more difficult. Audio and video content will become spam infested as text has been on the we…

Same, that's what I'm worried about as well. Internet as a whole will become more and more locked away, requiring from you all kinds of information to guarantee you're human.

That's the problem, the capability of generating low quality content good enough to fool anyone non the wiser. I mean, we're already seeing this.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by Mathnerd314 »

VectorLock wrote: post #28

The article was so long and rambling I asked ChatGPT to summarize it for me: The increased use of generative AI tools like ChatGPT has brought to a head the problem that creators have been facing for some time. They worry that these tools are greater masters of their craft than they are. According to a recent article, the explanation is simple: creators have overemphasized one part of the craft, posture. This refers…

I read the article and I'm pretty sure the issue was that creators were overemphasizing process, not posture.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by VectorLock »

ux-app wrote: post #26
imiric wrote: post #14

I'm not worried about AI replacing content creators. If anything, it will make the low effort bot generated content all platforms have been filled with for years now at least somewhat more interesting. What I'll be annoyed by is the amount of it that will exist, which will make finding high quality content made by humans much more difficult. Audio and video content will become spam infested as text has been on the we…

>We'll be flooded by SEO'd to hell garbage, propaganda and deep fakes the web is already almost completely corrupted by SEO'd to hell garbage.

Maybe ChatGPT can finally drive us over the edge to reset those algorithms.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by noduerme »

si1entstill wrote: post #15
vouaobrasil wrote: post #10

I really do think this article is missing the point entirely. Well, I think it's partially right in that there is an over-reliance on process and humans acting more like bots. However, in regards to content creation, there are far more serious problems: (a) ChatGPT is not just ChatGPT, it's an initial stage on a massive operation that will generate content on all levels and in much more advanced ways (b) Content crea…

> the reason why content creators get paid is because people buy shit they don't need, and AI will amplify this much more easily than humans Eh, I think this may be undervaluing the human part of content creation. People spend thousands of dollars for single seats at concerts because they've decided (or been told by taste-makers) that "this is what is good." I don't see that paradigm of consumption changing. I think…

Most of the musicians whose tickets go for thousands of dollars these days either were hugely successful by taking risks before the rise of algorithmic taste-making (and have older, wealthier audiences) or are basically meat puppets of the ad industry whose music, clothing style, branding, attitude, play frequency on streaming services, and even ticket prices are basically hydra heads of the same giant algorithmic psy-op that generates 40 songs per genre per year... pretty much the same as the latest machine-written sloppy ballad sung by the prole washerwoman in "1984". Pointing to the current hollow shell of creative void that is the music industry just shows how AI will use human faces to trick humans into feeling something and paying for the "experience". Yes, we still have Springsteen... but there's no new Springsteen. If e.g. Adam Levine were replaced by a humanoid robot or a deepfake, would any of his fans actually notice or care?

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by Mtinie »

labrador wrote: post #21

If you can't beat them, join them. The content creators who learn how to use AI tools to help them create their own unique content will likely get more work than those who don't learn the new AI tools.

Personally I don’t view it as “if you can’t beat them, join them,” though I understand the sentiment.

I prefer to think of it as “how can I use this tech to advance my craft and expand my options?”

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by VectorLock »

Mathnerd314 wrote: post #32
VectorLock wrote: post #28

The article was so long and rambling I asked ChatGPT to summarize it for me: The increased use of generative AI tools like ChatGPT has brought to a head the problem that creators have been facing for some time. They worry that these tools are greater masters of their craft than they are. According to a recent article, the explanation is simple: creators have overemphasized one part of the craft, posture. This refers…

I read the article and I'm pretty sure the issue was that creators were overemphasizing process , not posture.

This could be interpreted as an indictment of ChatGPT or the article's author.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by strogonoff »

dorkwood wrote: post #16
zamadatix wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

You don’t see a difference between using a paintbrush to paint a painting, and pasting “landscape painting ultra-detailed 4K artstation” into midjourney and getting an immediate result? I think it’s more like buying a paintbrush that also paints the painting for you. And I’d also have the same opinion about that.

First we delegate low-level repetitive mechanics, then we delegate high-level vision and thinking, then there are no more levels left to delegate.

If the first one harms motor skill, which we can pretend doesn’t affect the mind much, what does the second one harm?

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by tpmoney »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #5
breckenedge wrote: post #2

> The problem isn't that bots will replace humans. The problem is that humans are acting like bots. Yikes that really hits home. Since the dawn of computers, people have been handing over more and more of their thinking to processes and machines, becoming more robotic. Or like how the factory line changes the way people think, reduces their creativity. Maybe now that the robots are getting scarily good, I can hope th…

My first experience of this was when I got into an argument with a cashier. I remember it was something absurd and kafkesque, I returned a product, and they could only return the money on the card I used to pay for it, but that card has expired. I was exasperated "Here is my ID, its the same bank account, by the same bank. Use y common sence!" "But there is message sating it has to be the same card" "it no longer exi…

I'm slowly coming around to the idea that if at any point your organization gets so big that the answer "the system won't let me do that" is the final answer to a problem, you are too big. I used to write management software for a boutique service, and whenever something came up that ultimately needed to be corrected, but there wasn't a way to do that in the system UI it just took walking back to the IT department to get us to correct the issues manually, and then write up a ticket to fix it going forward. There was never a "the system won't let me do that" moment for something that should actually be doable.

By comparison, some years later after that company had gone out of business, I was in a big box version of the same service and we ran into a problem that was the equivalent of "accidentally closed this ticket, need to re-open". The cashier could see that it was a problem, and needed to be fixed. The supervisor could see it was a problem and needed to be fixed. The store manager could see it was a problem and needed to be fixed. And it was unfixable because there was no way to do it in the system and no system developers reachable by mere mortals.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by yamtaddle »

breckenedge wrote: post #2

> The problem isn't that bots will replace humans. The problem is that humans are acting like bots. Yikes that really hits home. Since the dawn of computers, people have been handing over more and more of their thinking to processes and machines, becoming more robotic. Or like how the factory line changes the way people think, reduces their creativity. Maybe now that the robots are getting scarily good, I can hope th…

> Yikes that really hits home. Since the dawn of computers, people have been handing over more and more of their thinking to processes and machines, becoming more robotic.

One of the major motifs of Chaplin's Modern Times.

It was released in 1936.

It's also, um, kinda something Karl Marx was concerned about. So.

Here's a famous sequence from the film, in which Chaplin's character is volun-told to try out a new efficiency-improving worker lunch machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwahG1s4dqI

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