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The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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My first experience of this was when I got into an argument with a cashier. I remember it was something absurd and kafkesque, I returned a product, and they could only return the money on the card I used to pay for it, but that card has expired. I was exasperated "Here is my ID, its the same bank account, by the same bank. Use y common sence!" "But there is message sating it has to be the same card" "it no longer exi…

I know this is besides the point but you can normally get refunds on expired cards. The card isn't valid for payments anymore but Visa/MC definitely keeps a record of it around. If it's with the same bank it shouldn't be an issue at all.

also, I don't think the same card rule is actually enforced by the system. I've always just nodded along and presented whatever card I had with me and returns always went through without an issue.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

You don’t see a difference between using a paintbrush to paint a painting, and pasting “landscape painting ultra-detailed 4K artstation” into midjourney and getting an immediate result? I think it’s more like buying a paintbrush that also paints the painting for you. And I’d also have the same opinion about that.

A difference? Well yeah, it's a hell of a lot quicker! Just like all tools before it you can lazily conjure a pile of (now shinier than before for the same amount of work) crap or you can put effort into crafting something good with it.

"It took a lot more effort than it needed to" isn't what defines whether something is able to have good craftsmanship put in.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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I think one of my biggest fears is when I see people excitedly exclaiming, "these kinds of tools allow people to create things that they never would've been capable of building". And then you see people on Reddit talking about how they created a picture book using stable diffusion for the pictures, and chat GPT for the story with the Reddit post titled "I wrote a book". It's almost as if people fundamentally misunder…

The concept of craftsmanship is changing.

I think it’s fine for them to say they wrote a book. The book didn’t exist. Then they took an action and the book existed. It’s like saying “I wrote a book” if you paid somebody to ghostwrite a book that you outlined.

Reminds me of people gatekeeping audiobooks as not reading.

It’s kind of like the difference between the facts and the truth.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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> The problem isn't that bots will replace humans. The problem is that humans are acting like bots. Yikes that really hits home. Since the dawn of computers, people have been handing over more and more of their thinking to processes and machines, becoming more robotic. Or like how the factory line changes the way people think, reduces their creativity. Maybe now that the robots are getting scarily good, I can hope th…

People behave like bots in systems that demand they behave like bots. The massive chain stores that people are working for don't want deviance, so they design systems that punish any wandering from the script that their users attempt to present. Don't see where better robots is going to fix that.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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I'm not worried about AI replacing content creators. If anything, it will make the low effort bot generated content all platforms have been filled with for years now at least somewhat more interesting. What I'll be annoyed by is the amount of it that will exist, which will make finding high quality content made by humans much more difficult. Audio and video content will become spam infested as text has been on the we…

>We'll be flooded by SEO'd to hell garbage, propaganda and deep fakes

the web is already almost completely corrupted by SEO'd to hell garbage.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

Not really: I find a distinction between paying to CNC your own design and purchasing a product designed and CNC’d by someone else. In both cases you have a finished product, but in the second case you didn’t make it — you bought it.

I find a distinction in your example as well but I don't equate using the above tools to buying a premade solution in the same way I don't equate using a CNC to buying a premade solution on the premise it's less work to use a CNC skillfully vs what it would take manually.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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The article was so long and rambling I asked ChatGPT to summarize it for me:

The increased use of generative AI tools like ChatGPT has brought to a head the problem that creators have been facing for some time. They worry that these tools are greater masters of their craft than they are. According to a recent article, the explanation is simple: creators have overemphasized one part of the craft, posture. This refers to how creators see themselves and the world, which creates a unique creative “fingerprint”. Creators are not focusing enough on the other two parts, the process, which is how the work is directed, and practice, which involves honing creative skills. Instead, they are relying on techniques, workflows, and tools to direct them. By learning and focusing on the process and practice, creators can improve their skills and not worry about being replaced by AI tools.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

You don’t see a difference between using a paintbrush to paint a painting, and pasting “landscape painting ultra-detailed 4K artstation” into midjourney and getting an immediate result? I think it’s more like buying a paintbrush that also paints the painting for you. And I’d also have the same opinion about that.

Of course there's a difference but at the end of the day, what difference does it make.

Shooting a movie on an iphone pro can be as artistically involved as shooting one in black and white on 8mm film.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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I really do think this article is missing the point entirely. Well, I think it's partially right in that there is an over-reliance on process and humans acting more like bots. However, in regards to content creation, there are far more serious problems: (a) ChatGPT is not just ChatGPT, it's an initial stage on a massive operation that will generate content on all levels and in much more advanced ways (b) Content crea…

> the reason why content creators get paid is because people buy shit they don't need, and AI will amplify this much more easily than humans Eh, I think this may be undervaluing the human part of content creation. People spend thousands of dollars for single seats at concerts because they've decided (or been told by taste-makers) that "this is what is good." I don't see that paradigm of consumption changing. I think…

That is certainly a good point, and a strong counterargument. I'll think about that.
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