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China’s police are ensnaring thousands of suspects abroad

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China is really terrifying. I watched a video today of them taking pets from people and beating those pets to death as an anti covid measure this year. A billion plus people, largely uneducated, run by a despotic dictator- scary shit.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

Re: China’s police are ensnaring thousands of suspects abroad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just trying to understand the context of the 'arrests' as the article is paywalled. I'm not making any justifications in either of the cases, not sure why you feel the need to downvote a simple question for clarification.

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These forces are used to spy on, harass, and oppress Chinese dissidents and human rights advocates. You can find many other news sources focused on that: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chinese+police+new+york&iar=news&i... Including the NY Times: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chinese+police+new+york+site%3Anyt... Why did the Economist omit that entirely (unless I overlooked something)? Also, why repeat Chinese government clai…

Or maybe a newspaper that was known to peddle Iraq War propaganda shouldn't be treated as the source of truth when it comes to known about America's enemies. I'm not saying that it's wrong in this instance, but it's definitely sensational.

The Economist trusts that its readers can come to their own conclusion when it comes to extrajudicial extraditions. Just because they said something positive about China's motivations, doesn't mean they're kowtowing to China.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you that there is a certain kind of fanaticism about reporting on China but... why would the zero COVID policy involve killing people's pets? In any case, in the end it's all political posturing and propaganda from all sides but I don't think it's great to be framing things in terms of "well, this bad thing is actually not as bad as this worse thing, so we can overlook the less bad thing."

How is beating pets to death political posturing..? Someone thought it'd make them look good? Most likely it was some misinformed overzealous local official. Pets from pretty early on in the pandemic have been known to catch corona. I think the question of if you can catch the virus from a pet is inconclusive (last I heard) - but obviously very unlikely If you are trying to get to zero COVID so your city isn't shutdo…

Sorry, I meant the kind of reporting in both the US and China on these things is political posturing, not the killing of the pets.

Re: China’s police are ensnaring thousands of suspects abroad

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post #23

China is really terrifying. I watched a video today of them taking pets from people and beating those pets to death as an anti covid measure this year. A billion plus people, largely uneducated, run by a despotic dictator- scary shit.

[WARNING: It can be graphic] https://twitter.com/search?q=china%20covid%20dog&src=typed_q...

Some of it's pretty sickening, but during covid Twitter has made little to no effort to remove alot of the animal abuse videos from its platform.

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> In an article in 2021 two scholars from Jilin University warned that pressure on police to achieve success in the repatriation of fugitives could easily lead to the use of “inappropriate” methods, including “threatening and terrorising” suspects and putting pressure on their relatives.

If you owe money or are wanted in China, the government may go after your family to pressure you to return. This pressure can be as extreme as keeping your family members' kids from attending school.

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> In an article in 2021 two scholars from Jilin University warned that pressure on police to achieve success in the repatriation of fugitives could easily lead to the use of “inappropriate” methods, including “threatening and terrorising” suspects and putting pressure on their relatives. If you owe money or are wanted in China, the government may go after your family to pressure you to return. This pressure can be as…

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Re: China’s police are ensnaring thousands of suspects abroad

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post #23

China is really terrifying. I watched a video today of them taking pets from people and beating those pets to death as an anti covid measure this year. A billion plus people, largely uneducated, run by a despotic dictator- scary shit.

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two wrongs do NOT make a right, each item must be looked at in context

- police beating people up because of their skin - not normal or encouraged by the gov

- police killing pets? who knows

but you cannot link the two with whataboutism

Re: China’s police are ensnaring thousands of suspects abroad

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These forces are used to spy on, harass, and oppress Chinese dissidents and human rights advocates. You can find many other news sources focused on that: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chinese+police+new+york&iar=news&i... Including the NY Times: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chinese+police+new+york+site%3Anyt... Why did the Economist omit that entirely (unless I overlooked something)? Also, why repeat Chinese government clai…

Or maybe a newspaper that was known to peddle Iraq War propaganda shouldn't be treated as the source of truth when it comes to known about America's enemies. I'm not saying that it's wrong in this instance, but it's definitely sensational. The Economist trusts that its readers can come to their own conclusion when it comes to extrajudicial extraditions. Just because they said something positive about China's motivati…

NYT fired editors and journalists over that

> New York Times: we were wrong on Iraq

2004

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/26/pressandpublis...

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