The train that was carrying all of this passed through Cleveland, Ohio, just prior to this accident. Imagine the fallout if this had happened around a population of hundreds of thousands of people?
Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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#432When I hear Ohio and trains I immediately think of the huge federal grants for building a higher speed rail line from Cleveland over Columbus to Cincinnati that were already granted.
The same was granted for Wisconsin and Florida.
And one by one their governors refused to use these grants to build the infrastructure, and one by one the federal grants were reassigned, until in the end Florida got 2.3 billion dollars for building a high-speed rail line Miami-Orlando-Tampa. That was also sabotaged by its governor.
But because such a rail line is so incredibly economically effective a private company started to build it anyhow, just at lower speeds.
I’m still flabbergasted about this.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#433Earlier quoted context omitted.
You really don't see there being a very distinct difference between the beliefs of the left and right wings of American politics on this? You think "global oligarchy" is "apolitical", at a time when the right wing is pushing harder and harder for the very wealthy to, essentially, be able to do anything they want, while the left wing (such as it is in this country) is pushing to restrict their power and tax their weal…
Two wings of the same party. At this point because the DNC are currently so powerful they are parochially dominant (and extremely corrupt), the pendulum will swing soon and the power will shift to the RNC (who will no doubt also be extremely corrupt). The unelected bureaucrats actually run everything in the US and at a state level. In California where I live we currently have a supermajority Dem state government, but…
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#434Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you saying there was no possible way to get railroad safety through?
But it was the Republicans' fault
well it seems Dems put the rule in place, Republicans removed it, and then the Dems didn't act fast enough to re-instate it.
if i where to point at who has the most fault it here would be the Republicans.
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#435Earlier quoted context omitted.
EPA also said the dust from the towers collapsing on 9/11 was safe.
The actual EPA pronouncement was that the air and water in NY city were safe (not to warrant an evacuation). They still recommended that first responders and people in the vicinity wear respirators.
Didn't realize that distinction - thank you.
Do you know if they recommended it right away or after a few days?
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#436Earlier quoted context omitted.
EPA also said the dust from the towers collapsing on 9/11 was safe.
Are you going to list every call the EPA made and whether it was right or wrong? Or just cherry pick?
I just think it would be wise to not blindly trust any agency right now. I would like to see some independently verified levels at the crash site and at the locations where people are reporting issues.
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#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
Two wings of the same party. At this point because the DNC are currently so powerful they are parochially dominant (and extremely corrupt), the pendulum will swing soon and the power will shift to the RNC (who will no doubt also be extremely corrupt). The unelected bureaucrats actually run everything in the US and at a state level. In California where I live we currently have a supermajority Dem state government, but…
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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#439When I hear Ohio and trains I immediately think of the huge federal grants for building a higher speed rail line from Cleveland over Columbus to Cincinnati that were already granted. The same was granted for Wisconsin and Florida. And one by one their governors refused to use these grants to build the infrastructure, and one by one the federal grants were reassigned, until in the end Florida got 2.3 billion dollars f…
so... the grants were unnecessary? Also, how can someone see this catastrophe and still want to go with trains -- 200+ year old tech that is clearly environmentally destructive, doesn't solve last-mile, and can't be parallelized or re-routed, or even rescheduled easily
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
You really don't see there being a very distinct difference between the beliefs of the left and right wings of American politics on this? You think "global oligarchy" is "apolitical", at a time when the right wing is pushing harder and harder for the very wealthy to, essentially, be able to do anything they want, while the left wing (such as it is in this country) is pushing to restrict their power and tax their weal…
While I agree that there are, in general, significant differences in positions on these things, this seems like a bad example to choose: after all, US rail workers went on strike over the safety, long hours, and being expected to work injured or sick, and President Biden signed off on laws making their strikes illegal. Unfortunately, at least in the English-speaking world, many nominal workers' parties have largely b…
Exactly.