This is basically the plot of “white noise” with Adam driver (on netflix).
Which is based on the famous Don Delillo novel. This reads a bit like describing LotR as "that movie with Viggo Mortensen".
Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
The make up of the federal government changes greatly every two years. Our states probably have a similar turnover. This is why it's important to vote, not only in general elections, but also primary elections. Seats shouldn't be safe for incumbents who let this happen or anyone who takes huge donations from the billionaires or hedge funds you're talking about. Edit: I mean: the makeup of our government may change gr…
If the makeup of the federal government changes every two years, and yet nothing ever meaningfully changes, what does that say about the importance of voting?
If oligarchs spend tens of billions of dollars buying media companies in order to influence how people vote, what does that say about the importance of voting?
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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Here is the USDOT press release from 2017 on this: https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/news/usdot-announces-intent-repeal... Can anyone speak to whether these electronically controlled pneumatic brakes would have prevented or lessened the severity of this derailment in Ohio?
The concerning concept is that dragging an axle is going to cause a significant additional load on the engine given it was not on a slope (no load shift) that should have made the engineer to stop and ask what is being dragged regardless of other technical aids rather than "let's try to drag it for a few more miles and see if it gets knocked loose to make rate".
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason people are so upset isn't necessarily because of the environmental impact, it's because the people who work on these trains have been warning things like this could happen for years, and when they tried to strike over it, the federal government stepped in and crushed them into submission. There was a car on that train that was on fire for at least 20 miles before the derailment. If I can get pulled over fo…
>If I can get pulled over for having a busted tail light, a train full of toxic chemicals should get stopped for being on fire. What makes you think this isn’t what normally happens? Trains aren’t just cruising around constantly on fire.
I think you deeply underestimate how many derailments happen each year in the US
https://www.wric.com/news/u-s-world/how-often-do-trains-dera...
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#55Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident: VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could…
The reason people are so upset isn't necessarily because of the environmental impact, it's because the people who work on these trains have been warning things like this could happen for years, and when they tried to strike over it, the federal government stepped in and crushed them into submission. There was a car on that train that was on fire for at least 20 miles before the derailment. If I can get pulled over fo…
"People are upset because it's another case of the government completely failing to do their jobs of keeping regular people safe, "
Even though this is a private company you only blamed the government?
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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I mean I'm no Trump fan, but Ohio is also notoriously a swing state. Not sure it's remotely fair or relevant to talk about a fluctuating margin of voters as characterizing a state.
Unfortunately it hasn't been much of a swing state since the orange man came on the scene. Not to say that Ohio deserved this though.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_la...>
"The rise of precision scheduled railroading has resulted in resource and staffing cuts; to compensate railroad companies have enacted strict attendance policies for employees. These policies eliminate any free time which workers have, requiring them to be effectively on-call for weeks at a time. Workers have complained of increased levels of stress and fatigue."
"Unions representing about 17,000 workers threatened to strike over the points system, but BNSF Railway sued and won a restraining order to prevent the unions from striking. The Railway Labor Act grants Congress the authority to intervene in any railway or airline strike. Under this authority, the National Mediation Board has mediated negotiations between multiple freight railroads and unions starting in June 2021."
"Early on September 15, Biden announced a deal had been reached to prevent a strike, including an immediate 14% wage increase, but only one day of paid leave per year rather than the 15 days of paid sick leave unions wanted." "In late November, after some unions had rejected the agreement, Biden asked Congress to pass the agreement into law."
"Writing for Jacobin, Barry Eidlin, associate professor of sociology at McGill University, said the message sent to the rail workers by the president and Congress was "shut up and get back to work." The Biden administration's intervention in the dispute was condemned by over 500 labor historians in an open letter to Joe Biden and Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh."
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason people are so upset isn't necessarily because of the environmental impact, it's because the people who work on these trains have been warning things like this could happen for years, and when they tried to strike over it, the federal government stepped in and crushed them into submission. There was a car on that train that was on fire for at least 20 miles before the derailment. If I can get pulled over fo…
>If I can get pulled over for having a busted tail light, a train full of toxic chemicals should get stopped for being on fire. What makes you think this isn’t what normally happens? Trains aren’t just cruising around constantly on fire.
Trains aren’t just cruising around constantly on fire.
If they were, would you know? I wouldn't.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason people are so upset isn't necessarily because of the environmental impact, it's because the people who work on these trains have been warning things like this could happen for years, and when they tried to strike over it, the federal government stepped in and crushed them into submission. There was a car on that train that was on fire for at least 20 miles before the derailment. If I can get pulled over fo…
>If I can get pulled over for having a busted tail light, a train full of toxic chemicals should get stopped for being on fire. What makes you think this isn’t what normally happens? Trains aren’t just cruising around constantly on fire.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#60Train derailments are the latest conspiracy theory for tinfoil hats right now. I guess food processing plant fires fell out of vogue.
"nO oNe iS rEpOrTiNg aBoUt tHiS" cries the conspiracy theorist reporting about the incident using screencaps from news reports.