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Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by dfxm12 »

colpabar wrote: post #19
vorpalhex wrote: post #3

NBC suit and mask is starting to go from "crazy prepper territory" to sane supply keeping.

We live in a country where everything important is owned and controlled by billionaires or hedge funds who also control the government via bribery. Events like this make me think that it's much, much crazier to trust the government to keep us safe.

The make up of the federal government changes greatly every two years. Our states probably have a similar turnover. This is why it's important to vote, not only in general elections, but also primary elections. Seats shouldn't be safe for incumbents who let this happen or anyone who takes huge donations from the billionaires or hedge funds you're talking about.

Edit: I mean: the makeup of our government may change greatly every two years - this is why it is important to vote!

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by saul_goodman »

yabones wrote: post #14
0x008 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow. Well that probably means it happened before?

Lots of people saw this coming. This isn't a surprise, but it is horrifying. The safety concerns were a large part of the railroad workers union's complaints a few months ago, which was squashed by the US gov. All the corners have been cut to extract more value for shareholders, and there's nothing left to squeeze out.

Yea, oddly this has not yet bubbled to the surface of this story. Your government at work!

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by hanniabu »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #17
fredgrott wrote: post #5

What is being underplayed: -Same chemical by products as the chemicals stored at the Bhopal disaster -Railroad unions have been warning of this outcome for more than 10 years They will end up suing NS as the town will have to be evacuated again and demolished as they will find that the water-table has been polluted beyond repair.

Not sure why this is being downvoted.

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by micromacrofoot »

newZWhoDis wrote: post #9
0x008 wrote: post #8

This is basically the plot of “white noise” with Adam driver (on netflix).

Which oddly enough was filmed in the town this happened in… the universe is weird.

I thought that there were just some people from the town that were extras and it was filmed elsewhere in Ohio?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by agency »

dfxm12 wrote: post #31
colpabar wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a country where everything important is owned and controlled by billionaires or hedge funds who also control the government via bribery. Events like this make me think that it's much, much crazier to trust the government to keep us safe.

The make up of the federal government changes greatly every two years. Our states probably have a similar turnover. This is why it's important to vote, not only in general elections, but also primary elections. Seats shouldn't be safe for incumbents who let this happen or anyone who takes huge donations from the billionaires or hedge funds you're talking about. Edit: I mean: the makeup of our government may change gr…

If the makeup of the federal government changes every two years, and yet nothing ever meaningfully changes, what does that say about the importance of voting?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by colpabar »

vorpalhex wrote: post #27
colpabar wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a country where everything important is owned and controlled by billionaires or hedge funds who also control the government via bribery. Events like this make me think that it's much, much crazier to trust the government to keep us safe.

That would be great if it were true, unfortunately railway accidents are merely a reality of transporting dangerous chemicals hundreds of times per day. If we want to blame the railroad union not getting any time off or sick leave, there are no secret cabals of the rich - that is purely the white house.

> If we want to blame the railroad union not getting any time off or sick leave

A huge part of what they were striking over were safety concerns. Maximum train lengths, minimum crew sizes (did you know trains can be run by a single person and the government has no issue with that?), and required maintenance were all things the union was fighting for, and were all totally ignored by good old union joe.

> there are no secret cabals of the rich

lol. lmao even.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by gazpachotron »

yabones wrote: post #14
0x008 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow. Well that probably means it happened before?

Lots of people saw this coming. This isn't a surprise, but it is horrifying. The safety concerns were a large part of the railroad workers union's complaints a few months ago, which was squashed by the US gov. All the corners have been cut to extract more value for shareholders, and there's nothing left to squeeze out.

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by passwordoops »

Kyragem wrote: post #12

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So Biden, through the Department of Transport and Pete Buttigieg couldn't put those regulations back in place? Or were right in forcing striking rail workers back to work instead of, oh I don't know, supported them on basic issues like safety?

Yes Republicans are bad. But so are Dems, and their voters refusing to hold the party accountable for obvious failures. It's why the country is going to shift. R's pass bad policy, and D's cry about R's instead of governing

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by downvotetruth »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #6
fredgrott wrote: post #5

What is being underplayed: -Same chemical by products as the chemicals stored at the Bhopal disaster -Railroad unions have been warning of this outcome for more than 10 years They will end up suing NS as the town will have to be evacuated again and demolished as they will find that the water-table has been polluted beyond repair.

Bhopal was methyl isocyanate.

The most concerning chemical when Bhopal occurred was methyl isocyanate. But, although it was the most concerning, many other chemicals are at Bhopal that would be a significant problem in themselves, which are not possibilities for the current topic.
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