They’re labelers, which are being quickly replaced by automation. This is a bid to secure their jobs long-term.
Idk why people are downvoting me, it’s 100% facts. Google “Project Vacation”
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zuckerberg went to Phillips Exeter, a high school which costs at least $47,000 a year. Zuckerberg bought Instagram from Kevin Systrom who went to Middlesex high school, which costs at least $55,000 a year. At this point it becomes a parlor game of who is rich, and who is "upper middle class", which apparently means spending $55,000+ a year on your kid's high school.
You're really moving the goalposts. From "the heirs who own the majority of stock" to "spending $55,000+ a year on your kid's high school." Edit: Zuckerberg's parents were a psychiatrist and a dentist. Well paid jobs but still jobs. I'd hardly call it generational wealth .
If your parents can afford to spend 60k a year on your high school, then that is generational wealth.
Do you think the child of a poor single mother trying to make ends meet is given the same opportunities?
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#113They’re labelers, which are being quickly replaced by automation. This is a bid to secure their jobs long-term.
While I get their unease.... moves like this in a Globalized economy (supported by most Unions) might just prompt Tesla (or any other) to find an overseas shop to do this work for them. It's really a lose-lose for them, in my view. They may buy themselves some temporary "relief" but it'll accelerate business propensity to find more economical alternatives.
Yes and ultimately they will reduce the headcount to a fraction of current size since autolabeling will work in most scenarios. To my knowledge this has already happened… labelers now are tagging new scenarios for the autolabeler to grok for future learning passes.
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#116They’re labelers, which are being quickly replaced by automation. This is a bid to secure their jobs long-term.
How would that work? Threaten to go on strike if they're replaced? Tesla would likely tell them to go ahead and just implement the automation. Seems like the only way this works is if there is a much larger union for all employees and the union wants to protect these jobs as part of keeping itself as large as possible.
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#117I wouldn’t be surprised that UAW be behind that. It’s a very powerful organisation having a lot of political power. They see Tesla as a threat to their system as Tesla is the only in the US not part of it and they are doing better than all the other car companies. I know someone who saved companies from bankruptcy, usually heavy industries. When he get hired he install security cameras and other measures and after a…
> they are doing better than all the other car companies By which metric? Their market cap is astronomical, but they, to be frank, don't actually make a lot of cars. Not to mention that virtually every product release is delayed ad nauseum, FSD from Tesla is both a pipe dream and a liability nightmare, and other manufacturers, both foreign and domestic, are rapidly catching up with appealing EVs.
In 2022 Tesla produced 1.3 million vehicles and will produce 1.8 - 2 million this year, how can you quantify that as not a lot of cars?
By others rapidly catching up do you mean announcing future models instead of shipping actual EVs? No one is within an order of magnitude of making the number of EVs that Tesla does in their market segment (not counting PHEVs or micro cars in China)
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#118LOL they’re office workers who “label data”. Meanwhile the factory workers all have seven figure options grants and aren’t interested.
> the factory workers all have seven figure options grants
I would genuinely like to see a citation for that. That's wonderful if true, but probably too expensive to be real.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I get their unease.... moves like this in a Globalized economy (supported by most Unions) might just prompt Tesla (or any other) to find an overseas shop to do this work for them. It's really a lose-lose for them, in my view. They may buy themselves some temporary "relief" but it'll accelerate business propensity to find more economical alternatives.
Yes and ultimately they will reduce the headcount to a fraction of current size since autolabeling will work in most scenarios. To my knowledge this has already happened… labelers now are tagging new scenarios for the autolabeler to grok for future learning passes.
I don't live or been to Western Upstate NY... but I get the feeling their mindset is still pre-80s union and have a hard time realizing the realities of working in technology or technology adjacent industries. You cannot capture an industry. If you make doing business with them more difficult than necessary, they will seek friendlier terms elsewhere. And it's a shame, Buffalo deserves a chance to integrate into the modern economy so they should take advantage of these toe-holds to attract more industry interest to the area.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is illegal under US law.
When / how ?
They are referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_union