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Post by dotancohen »

paulmd wrote: post #192
dotancohen wrote: post #64

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Slightly OT, but the XKCD 28 hour week is terrific. I've twice tan a test week using it, and I was more refreshed, and got more work done, than any other week. I also enjoyed more sunshine too. I'm sure that it's not for everybody, but it is a terrific solution to _some_ lifestyle issues. Not to mention the drop in peak resource usage (electric, roads, etc) if people were to stagger it in three shifts.

I used to run the 28 hour week in grad school and really enjoyed it personally as well. The problem is keeping contact with everyone else when your schedule is rolling all across the calendar. I gotta pick the car up at 3 and call the dentist after they open at 10, and I have a class monday-wednesday-friday at 10am. 28 hour week would work a lot better in a city where everything is open 24h than a rural area where th…

Yes, agreed. It does present scheduling challenges. It would certainly work better in a society that had other people on 28 hour days.

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Post by petodo »

Sebb767 wrote: post #170
petodo wrote: post #139

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It should, but UFO UFO UFO! I've lost faith in intelligence of HN users after they downvoted into oblivion anyone sceptical about COVID "vaccines" and pushed official safe and effective propaganda. It's same with this baloon smokescreen, notice how nobody talks about Nord Stream 2 sabotage by US, which was like 1 day affair, while they entertrain us with this UFO nonsense for days already. https://news.ycombinator.co…

> notice how nobody talks about Nord Stream 2 sabotage by US, which was like 1 day affair This was discussed thoroughly when the incident happened and the recent news were just some allegations by a reporter, without actual new evidence. Doesn't seem like the balloon story is a distraction, especially since it's rather US-focused, unlike the Nordstream incident.

> This was discussed thoroughly when the incident happened

Ah yeah, right, I guess that's also when investigation was finished within hours since the sabotage happened.

For US it's distraction from Ohio toxic air as bonus. What I would be more affraid - non-existent UFO on par with Iraqi WMD or toxic air? That's tough one...

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Post by zug_zug »

croutonwagon wrote: post #207
kibwen wrote: post #131

My brother lives less than 15 miles downwind from the site of the disaster. He's young, just graduated from trade school, found a welding job in the area and brought his wife and one year-old daughter. In 50 years I'm sure we'll consider this whole region a superfund site and hand out pennies to the people whose lives were completely upended as a result. It's a travesty how this has been handled. Massively rich corpo…

I was watching the Ohio governor guarantee the safety of the water and environment there and was just thinking to myself "This guy will end up eating these words" as well as "this is why i dont like politicians". He kept quoting the EPA, even after the interviewer mentioned the EPA certificiations didnt consider all the chemicals released. He still kept drilling the science says its fine. As if health science underst…

If he was serious he'd take an oath to drink tap-water from the region.

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Post by kiliantics »

quacked wrote: post #191
kiliantics wrote: post #173

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I have a very similar outlook. It's pretty clear to me that things are moving faster and faster in society and likely not towards anything very good. So it seems naive to expect the old models to continue working. My "retirement plan" therefore is something between conventional wisdom and prepping. Put some money into savings for emergencies and the remaining possibility that stocks may have some growth in future, bu…

I'm glad to hear you say that. There are a lot of people out there who are kind of thinking the same thing. The only thing I really worry about is that if the time does come and we really need to use our paltry reserves of food, land, ammunition, etc. whether or not we have the ability to do the real civilizational dirty work--forming strategic alliances, committing violence when necessary, avoiding starvation throug…

These outcomes are pretty extreme and therefore I think pretty unlikely. I think it's useful to consider but maybe harmful to expect them and prepare only for such events. One thing I also think is very important, maybe most important of all in regards to what you bring up, is to invest not only in things but to invest in people.

Build a community of people around you that you can depend on and who can depend on you, a mutual aid network. Strong relationships are what's needed when state/societal or bureaucratically demanded relationships break down. But in a less extreme setting, like if you lose your job or have a tragedy or catastrophe in your life/community, having strong support among friends can be the difference between getting back on your feet or ending up homeless or otherwise worse off.

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Post by ImHereToVote »

krainboltgreene wrote: post #218
goalieca wrote: post #178

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You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think the soviets or Chinese also don’t cut corners under their economic systems.

Sure, but you got a lot more bang for your corrupt buck if you were a regular citizen in the USSR and CCP.

CPC

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Post by destitude »

moring wrote: post #141
destitude wrote: post #102

Another example of people not taking into account the full life cycle of the products they purchase. Vinyl chloride was one of the main toxic chemicals dumped in this derailment and it is used to make PVC. You might want to think twice about using vinyl siding, windows, flooring, etc..

Let me rephrase that: "A toxic cloud was leaked, for all we know caused by subpar safety standards on the other side of the globe, which involved the same chemical that was used to produce my PVC flooring." Based on this reasoning, which flooring (or other construction materials) are acceptable?

There is huge swath of flooring available that isn't produced from toxic ingredients from wood to linoleum. Most people just don't bother to look.
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