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ChatGPT Hype Is Proof Nobody Understands AI

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Re: ChatGPT Hype Is Proof Nobody Understands AI

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Post by johnea »

fintechie wrote: post #18
Aperocky wrote: post #14

I've find two groups of people on this subject, first one has taken a graduate level stat course and/or ML course, and may have work experience in machine learning/data science. The latter camp is more numerous and did not do those things. The latter group are far more hyped about ChatGPT et al, despite explanation by the first group. Don't get me wrong, ChatGPT is very exciting, just not in the way it is frequently…

> first one has taken a graduate level stat course and/or ML course, and may have work experience in machine learning/data science I think it's just a few people getting salty because they understand "how it works" but don't understand "why is getting popular". So they start to shout from their ivory tower without realising the tectonic shift under way. Sort of, you know how to build a stupid mobile video/photo app,…

Excellent point about "why its getting popular".

It's getting popular because a bunch Vulture VC's see a huge oppotunitiy to pump and dump.

They're gonna make billions! Who gives a shit if it'll really solve any problems, or make real revenue. It's immediate primary value is in it's ability to create stock value inflation.

Because shareholder value is really the meaning of life, right?

Re: ChatGPT Hype Is Proof Nobody Understands AI

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Post by foogazi »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #49
labrador wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw this example on Twitter today which shows ChatGPT doesn't understand: Mike's mother had 4 kids; 3 of them are named Luis, Drake and Matilda. What is the name of the 4th kid? I'm sorry, but I don't have information about the fourth kid. The information you provided is that Mike's mother has 4 kids, and three of them are named Luis, Drake, and Matilda. However, the name of the fourth child is not specified in the…

I had to read that 3-4 times before I understood that it was a riddle. So I put it in GPT3–and it got the answer right away: “Mike's mother had 4 kids; 3 of them are named Luis, Drake and Matilda. What is the name of the 4th kid? The fourth kid is Mike. ” So, maybe they just needed to try again.

Where’s the article about this example ?

Re: ChatGPT Hype Is Proof Nobody Understands AI

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Post by cheeselip420 »

ofrzeta wrote: post #32
cheeselip420 wrote: post #6

These articles are all the same. It's like complaining how the Ford Model T couldn't drive you to England in the early 20th century while ignoring how it would revolutionize cities and life within America. Whether you believe it's 'real' or not is irrelevant. It's here, it's useful and the world will not be the same as it was.

What about the fact that it's not reliable? Seems unusable to me if you are not a domain expert that just gets help from the system and who is able to judge whether its advice is true or made up.

Humans aren't reliable either. This is why we write tests, have code reviews, fact-checking/editing, etc.

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Post by labrador »

aPoCoMiLogin wrote: post #79
dr_dshiv wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to read it multiple times before I understood why it was a test of understanding. It is a riddle.

even if you classify it as riddle, you still need intelligence to "solve it", which is what is missing in LLM. the good answer you later got was probably prompt created by someone manually, to further feed the model. did you need more data to solve the riddle ? rather more attention to what you read than more data, and that's the sole issue with AI/ML in current form.

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I couldn't get ChatGPT to answer despite multiple tries. It answers simpler questions just fine

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