Wouldn't it make more sense to capture such objects? Or shot down in a less destructive way instead of rockets and then investigate what they are about, which countries they are from. Or is US past that point already?
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#523If an agitator puts up a balloon and payload, one of which contains a potentially dangerous substance, and a nation in question shoots it down, thus releasing and activating that substance, who is responsible? And who does the public deem responsible? (I don't think this is realistic, just musing about other schemes that could be going on.)
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#524So my thoughts: 1. Are we just seeing more of these things now, due to the US broadening the scope of their radar filtering, and there were always this number of things floating around and now they're just more aware of them? 2. Has something changed in the upper atmosphere/jet stream that's catching balloons that would have previously blown elsewhere, and are now going over the US by accident? 3. Is some really big…
It could be for a couple different reasons and/or a combination of them, but included in those are probably things like distraction from the lies, failure, and collapse in Ukraine or even the “OMG, it’s UFOs” now is to prevent that huge toxic chemical catastrophe in Ohio taking peoples attention. But maybe it’s even just priming people for the minutes of hate to initiate Oceana’s war with Eurasia that we have always been in.
The social engineers in the government constantly misdirect and redirect attention by using their patsies in the media companies, so it’s not like it doesn’t happen. And now we have AI generated propaganda to look forward to an even more efficient psychosis inducing stream of lies.
What I’m more curious about is how otherwise smart people are so easily redirected and played tricks on as if they’re babies, too they point they don’t even realize the magic smoke and mirrors show happening as the ball disappears and reappears in the other hand and the young attractive lady survived being sawed in half.
Boop! The government’s got your nose! What will you do without your nose. Boop! Ok, it put it back. Phew! That was close!
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Don't forget the brave Dutch battalion that protected the civilians of Srebrenica in the secure UN enclave, oh wait, they didn't, they handed them off to Serb forces to be executed.
Then there were the Nordbats: https://thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2017/9/20/trigger-h...
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It can provide legal cover for invading countries… Bosnia, Iraq etc. The UN courts can issue judgements… Human Rights Courts: e.g. Slobodan Milosovic, Radavan Kardzich etc A lot of the global treaties are kicked around there They also enforce peace zones (poorly) like Lebanon, Israel demilitarised zone. They coordinate aid programs UNRWA etc
I don't think legal cover is the right term. My understanding that basically all nations view their domestic laws as higher than the UN. UN decisions are more like a veil or facade of moral Authority
Not so; "veil" or "facade" implies fakeness or concealment. The U.N. does not hide its mission or its position on human rights.
> One of the great achievements of the United Nations is the creation of a comprehensive body of human rights law—a universal and internationally protected code to which all nations can subscribe and all people aspire. The United Nations has defined a broad range of internationally accepted rights, including civil, cultural, economic, political and social rights. It has also established mechanisms to promote and protect these rights and to assist states in carrying out their responsibilities. [1]
The lack of consensus and consistency is an ongoing challenge, sure, but it doesn't make the goals fake. Countries are flawed and have competing interests, but it is important to nudge the world in a better direction.
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Yeah, so the lore goes, Musk just wanted to send humans to Mars, and had no intention, originally, to build his own rockets. The first tactic was to retool an ICBM for spacier spaceflight, but the Russians laughed them out of the country.
Why would the Russians laugh at that? They did this themselves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepr_(rocket)
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Are you sure they haven't only tested/demonstrated that capability? I haven't heard of an actual satellite warfare incident yet. That would be a very huge deal.
Information about satellite warfare incidents is tightly classified. Nonetheless, it is a bit of an open secret that these types of incidents (not necessarily lasers) have escalated markedly in recent years. The countries most affected by this tend to be those that are not traditional space powers but nonetheless have many space assets e.g. Western Europe.