US aircraft shoots down new airborne object over Canada

Post by oceliker » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 12:18 AM UTC

ksherlock wrote: post #121

rgbrenner wrote: post #38

I think China erred by sending such a large balloon that was visible to the naked eye, causing the American public to demand it be shot down. There's no hard rule about where national airspace ends and space begins.. a lot of times they fly too high for planes to reach, and under certain circumstances balloons are allowed through national airspace.. so if the balloon isn't causing a problem (like being a hazard to ai…

> There's no hard rule about where national airspace ends and space begins What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? There's no hard rule about when life begins but killing a 5 year old isn't a 22nd trimester abortion, it's murder. 18-60'000 feet is class A, controlled airspace in the US and Canada. When the US sent U2s over the USSR, the rationale wasn't that 70,000 feet was "space", it was that it w…

Post by toomuchtodo » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 12:23 AM UTC

BobbyJo wrote: post #118

rgbrenner wrote: post #97

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That's speculation on your part. The DoD has not released any information on what the payload of any of these balloons contains. And going by the size isn't conclusive. The ICESat-2 weather satellite is over 3000lbs, for example. So instruments larger than found on a typical weather balloon clearly do have their place in weather/climate science.

> That's speculation on your part. The DoD has not released any information on what the payload of any of these balloons contains. Not true: https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-balloon-carried-antenna...

Post by krapp » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 12:24 AM UTC

00deadbeef wrote: post #139

krapp wrote: post #113

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> Because at least the 2nd object wasn’t, it was described as a cylinder about the size of a car Source?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-shoots-high-altitude-obje... > It was described as "cylindrical and silver-ish gray" and seemed to be floating, a U.S. official said. https://news.sky.com/story/us-shoots-down-unknown-object-fly... > The object, shot down on the order of President Joe Biden, was flying at a high altitude of about 40,000ft and was the size of a small car, the White House said.

    "It did not appear to have maneuverability capability, he said. "It was virtually at the whim of the wind."

Post by cdot2 » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 12:25 AM UTC

rgbrenner wrote: post #38

I think China erred by sending such a large balloon that was visible to the naked eye, causing the American public to demand it be shot down. There's no hard rule about where national airspace ends and space begins.. a lot of times they fly too high for planes to reach, and under certain circumstances balloons are allowed through national airspace.. so if the balloon isn't causing a problem (like being a hazard to ai…

Post by dumbaccount123 » Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 12:26 AM UTC

dtx1 wrote: post #114

dogma1138 wrote: post #102

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Because at least the 2nd object wasn’t, it was described as a cylinder about the size of a car which is where all the UFO tic-tac victory mark memes came from.

Yeah, source please, i have not read anything about this and that would be HIGHLY interesting.