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No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by ozim »

joemazerino wrote: post #11

I despise the WHO generally but this article is solid. There is too much confusion about alcohol in the medical industry. If you ask European doctors having a glass or two of wine "extends health". If you research typical government guidelines, they say a drink or two a day isn't bad or may even say it's "healthy" [1] The facts are facts. Alcohol is a poison that wrecks havoc on your mind and body. If having one drin…

It gets worse where people get issues and they start looking for some diet supplements or pills for "better liver" ,"concentration problems" or whatever else.

When first thing they should do is stop drinking alcohol.

In the reddit thread about article there was someone who could not connect the dots that after drinking alcohol they would have hangover the next day.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by bryanlarsen »

joemazerino wrote: post #11

I despise the WHO generally but this article is solid. There is too much confusion about alcohol in the medical industry. If you ask European doctors having a glass or two of wine "extends health". If you research typical government guidelines, they say a drink or two a day isn't bad or may even say it's "healthy" [1] The facts are facts. Alcohol is a poison that wrecks havoc on your mind and body. If having one drin…

The dose makes the poison

- Paracelsus

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by lr4444lr »

paiute wrote: post #15

The thinking is backwards on this. They state there is no scientific safe drinking level. They even compare it to radiation. The goal is to establish an unsafe level. it's like saying there is no safe speed to drive a car - sure that's technically true, but worthless to say.

Driving isn't hazardous to your health. Crashing is. That's like saying eating is unhealthy to your health because you might choke.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by SeanLuke »

bamboozled wrote: post #20
joemazerino wrote: post #11

I despise the WHO generally but this article is solid. There is too much confusion about alcohol in the medical industry. If you ask European doctors having a glass or two of wine "extends health". If you research typical government guidelines, they say a drink or two a day isn't bad or may even say it's "healthy" [1] The facts are facts. Alcohol is a poison that wrecks havoc on your mind and body. If having one drin…

Anecdotally I know a lot of really old people who still drink. Maybe I'd know more if they didn't drink. I know one guy who is ~90, survived cancer 3 times and attributes his survival to daily doses of Japanese Shochu. You might be able to argue that alcohol was the cause of the cancer but I guess we'll never know. Disclaimer: Currently not drinking even a drop. Edit: Maybe I'd know more if they didn't drink. ...is a…

> Anecdotally I know a lot of really old people who still drink.

I know someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day who is almost 100 years old. Smoking is good or you!

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by splatzone »

konschubert wrote: post #27
bamboozled wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally I know a lot of really old people who still drink. Maybe I'd know more if they didn't drink. I know one guy who is ~90, survived cancer 3 times and attributes his survival to daily doses of Japanese Shochu. You might be able to argue that alcohol was the cause of the cancer but I guess we'll never know. Disclaimer: Currently not drinking even a drop. Edit: Maybe I'd know more if they didn't drink. ...is a…

This comment adds nothing to the discussion.

Disagree, today I learned what Shōchū is

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

thehappypm wrote: post #22
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #10

To say this is true for every human being is an assault on the field of genetics. There are several voltage gated ion channels that are inhibited by ethanol. So ethanol can clearly be seen as a medicine in those with genetic changes in these genes that cause channel channelopathies. And anecdotally, my grandfather drank a lot. Not an alcoholic, but he was no teetotaler, and I would often see him sneaking shots of vod…

Sneaking shots is alcoholic behavior.

Or it's "keep the peace" behavior. A real alcoholic would have it in a water bottle.

(inb4 no true scotsman)

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by rco8786 »

bamboozled wrote: post #20
joemazerino wrote: post #11

I despise the WHO generally but this article is solid. There is too much confusion about alcohol in the medical industry. If you ask European doctors having a glass or two of wine "extends health". If you research typical government guidelines, they say a drink or two a day isn't bad or may even say it's "healthy" [1] The facts are facts. Alcohol is a poison that wrecks havoc on your mind and body. If having one drin…

Anecdotally I know a lot of really old people who still drink. Maybe I'd know more if they didn't drink. I know one guy who is ~90, survived cancer 3 times and attributes his survival to daily doses of Japanese Shochu. You might be able to argue that alcohol was the cause of the cancer but I guess we'll never know. Disclaimer: Currently not drinking even a drop. Edit: Maybe I'd know more if they didn't drink. ...is a…

For every of those is several people who died at 60 from liver disease

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by throwaway98797 »

thehappypm wrote: post #22
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #10

To say this is true for every human being is an assault on the field of genetics. There are several voltage gated ion channels that are inhibited by ethanol. So ethanol can clearly be seen as a medicine in those with genetic changes in these genes that cause channel channelopathies. And anecdotally, my grandfather drank a lot. Not an alcoholic, but he was no teetotaler, and I would often see him sneaking shots of vod…

Sneaking shots is alcoholic behavior.

what’s preferred a happy alcoholic or a sober know it all
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