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The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry

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Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry

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>if you weren't a top performer, you were let go If "top performer" is defined as, say, 90th percentile, does that imply >90% turnover?

No, not at all. You didn't have to be a top performer at Netflix , you had to be a top performer industrywide. Netflix basically tried to keep only people who would be rated as top performers at other companies. Think of it like a sports team (which is how Netflix always described it). They wanted the best people in the league.

This has “grade inflation at Harvard” energy. It does seem reasonable to me, but at the same time you can see how it’s a little ridiculous.

Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry

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Have a gut feeling that polyglots can’t handle C++ so well because their strategies for using several languages fail: one has to know C++ well in order to be able to use it successfully. I know C++ memory management like the back of my hand and much of the STL (with some C++17+ exceptions) by heart. But even though I’ve used both C# and Java in the past and could jump back in, my working knowledge of those languages…

Rust is Polygolt friendly and fills the same space as C++. I would say things are not looking good for C++ right now.

It’s not, it’s in the same complexity class as C++, except many more errors happen at compile time.

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I worked for the G company I'm assuming you're referring to :) I left because of the insane paranoid culture. I do however share the same sentiment as the parent poster - I interviewed for XTX for a c++ role when I quit and during one of the interviews I asked about on-call rota and out of hours work. The answer I got: "oh, it's not too bad. We have a weekly rota, you can expect to get called maybe 3 or 4 times... a…

That was 6 years ago and it was indeed tough back then, we were rewriting a huge trading system from Java -> C++ while trying to keep our edge. However, we succeeded and things have changed considerably since. We also have a dev working in Singapore now which makes support significantly better. We were at least honest in the interview process regarding hours, there are companies where you would only find that out aft…

Indeed, I was very grateful for the honesty, because the roles otherwise seemed very exciting.

However, the moment someone would've announced that this was the reality of the situation I'd have walked out the door, because that is NOT normal under any circumstance.

Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry

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Fully agree. I've also seen my fair share of very restrictive no-remote work offers, but they didn't even offer exceptional pay in exchange. And those C++ automotive jobs in Germany? Sorry, I'm not even going to interview for 70k€ annually.

> And those C++ automotive jobs in Germany? Sorry, I'm not even going to interview for 70k€ annually. I'd take that job in a heartbeat. Working on cars? Check. Nice European country? Check. Work-life balance? Double-check. What's not to like? Maybe it's because I'm looking for fresh graduate jobs, and 70000€ looks very attractive to me, even with a 35% tax.

The original article was talking about senior engineers with 10+ years of practical C++ experience. And for that, 70k is low.

Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry

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> Nice European country? The grass is always greener on the other side. :) If you don’t like the idea of living in San Francisco or Chicago, you’ll hate it at most of the large European cities. Small towns are a different manner.

I'm not American. I think almost all European cities are a lot smaller and a lot less dense than Singapore is. And they have equivalent public transport, amenities, etc. Make no mistakes, I don't have any illusions about cultural differences and am perfectly aware of grass-greener-on-other-side syndrome. I just don't want to be stuck in a 700 km^2 island all my life.

You'll be surprised! I haven't found a single place in Europe where public transport is even remotely as good as the MRT in Singapore.
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