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David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Suspect Eminem himself would have a more nuanced take on this than the ‘of course this is okay’ or ‘this is never okay’ responses it’s getting right here. Number 1: Hip hop’s built (to at least as great an extent as EDM) on sampling. And while the degree of respect for clearing and getting authorization to use samples has varied over the years and between artists, as a reference point, Eminem’s breakthrough ‘My Name…

I am not sure what gave you the impression that he didn’t call. I don’t think there’s been confirmation either way. I know people aren’t always familiar with Guetta or EDM, but it’s important to know how prolific and genre blending he and his music is. I would give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s at the top of the list of artists who would do this intentionally, but respectfully to cause a discussion. Guetta has many song collaborations with mainstream artists in R&B and Hip Hop. His full songwriting credits list is huge but just looking at the credits page for who he’s done music videos with should give you a clear understanding of him. He needs to show respect to the artist, but he doesn’t need to defend that he did publicly.

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1615892/fullcredits

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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OpenAI will 100% need to start paying royalties. For instance it knows a whole lot of things that are not publicly available and locked away behind science journal paywalls.

I don't see why that would require them to pay royalties. The training data is also publicly available, https://pile.eleuther.ai/

From The Pile: An 800GB Dataset of Diverse Text for Language Modeling:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.00027.pdf

7.1 Legality of Content

While the machine learning community has begun to discuss the issue of the legality of training models on copyright data, there is little acknowledgment of the fact that the processing and distribution of data owned by others may also be a violation of copyright law. As a step in that direction, we discuss the reasons we believe that our use of copyright data is in compliance with US copyright law.

Under pre (1984) (and affirmed in subsequent rulings such as aff (2013); Google (2015)), non-commercial, not-for-profit use of copyright media is preemptively fair use. Additionally, our use is transformative, in the sense that the original form of the data is ineffective for our purposes and our form of the data is ineffective for the purposes of the original documents. Although we use the full text of copyright works, this is not necessarily disqualifying when the full work is necessary (ful, 2003). In our case, the long-term dependencies in natural language require that the full text be used in order to produce the best results (Dai et al., 2019; Rae et al., 2019; Henighan et al., 2020; Liu et al., 2018).

Copyright law varies by country, and there may be additional restrictions on some of these works in particular jurisdictions. To enable easier compliance with local laws, the Pile reproduction code is available and can be used to exclude certain components of the Pile which are inappropriate for the user. Unfortunately, we do not have the metadata necessary to determine exactly which texts are copyrighted, and so this can only be undertaken at the component level. Thus, this should be be taken to be a heuristic rather than a precise determination.

1984. Sony corp. of america v. universal city studios, inc. 2003. Kelly v. arriba soft corp. 2013. Righthaven llc v. hoehn.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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This isn't going to be released commercially, as a very successful artist, he knows that better than most. No record label would release songs without clearing things with the relevant artist. Many artists and DJs don't release live sets/remixes because it would be impossible to clear all the samples, I don't see why this would be any different.

>No record label would release songs without clearing things with the relevant artist. What would that email look like? "Here's some lyrics you never wrote and some audio you've never heard. Can I use it in my song?"

Something like that, lyrics about other artists are often cleared too. There’s a mutual understanding in certain genres, but there’s the infamous example between Taylor Swift and West where the conversation was leaked because West mislead Swift. The candidness of it and the beginning of the line Taylor was willing to let slide was interesting. That wasn’t even AI or a sample, just a reference in a demeaning line.

https://genius.com/Kanye-west-kanye-west-and-taylor-swifts-f...

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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The rules for live DJ sets is very different from copyright rules that limit published music. This is the same as when artists use samples of meme audio, which otherwise would be copyrighted. Guetta has a long very large body of work and deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the question of Eminem okaying it. He very clearly wants there to be a discussion about this. Celebrity impersonators for singing have been a thing for a long time. This isn’t about one artist in particular.

I was playing with Tortoise TTS and was genuinely surprised by how good it is with just a few minutes of clean audio. It didn’t take me hours to train or fine tune, the generation step is sort of long, 5-7 minutes for 30 seconds, but it feels really similar to stable diffusion where you do quick test with slow samples and iterations to find a decent seed, and then you let it do a more complete regeneration. It’s zero shot generation that ran on my laptop 2070 max q and i7 10750h. It’s not perfect but it’s believable when layered with music.

https://github.com/152334H/tortoise-tts-fast

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Based (how closely ?) on the 1971 black humour science fiction novel "The Futurological Congress" by Stanisław Lem ! (For those that would not know, he coined the term "robot" from the slavic root "work".)

Are you sure? Wikipedia says the word was coined by Karel Capek: https://wikiless.org/wiki/Karel_%C4%8Capek?lang=en

Oh damn. My bad - it's funny, I even though to myself : «he would have been quite young, wouldn't he ?»

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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I think I need an Explain like I'm 5 of why people like this and is willing to pay money for it.

People enjoy different things, let's let them

Hardly an explanation. I really wanted to understand.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Maybe I am late to recognize that, but with recent developments I get the feeling that AI and machine learning are really getting somewhere now. If it goes forward with the current trajectory, then this could change the world just like radio, television or the internet did.

Those things advanced average people’s reach. This is not doing that.

I think you're wrong. These AIs are available to everyone. So anyone can create studio quality audio by clicking around.

If anything, it potentially puts big studios out of business. Itunes and and Spotify and Youtube become the distribution channels.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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I don't think this is true any more. At least, I've heard generated audio from the latest models that runs for well over a minute without obvious artifacts.

I don’t know what else I expected to hear since progress in these spaces is moving crazy quickly. What models?

Elevenlabs, by some ex-googlers: https://beta.elevenlabs.io/ If anything, the results I've heard from this are better than the demos.

And VALL-E by Microsoft, which isn't quite as good, but notable because it can clone real voices with only three seconds of training data: https://valle-demo.github.io/

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

#170

Maybe I am late to recognize that, but with recent developments I get the feeling that AI and machine learning are really getting somewhere now. If it goes forward with the current trajectory, then this could change the world just like radio, television or the internet did.

Those things advanced average people’s reach. This is not doing that.

The internet broke down the barriers to content distribution. AI will break down the barriers to content creation.

The future will not be "look I made an AI song that millions of people are listening to!" but will be "AI create and play me a song of my favorite rapper overlaid onto of my favorite techno genre" and you'll just listen to it yourself.

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