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We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
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Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#42Why should this codeium suddenly rocket past the already established codeium product that was indexed? Complaining is easy. SEO takes work.
When searching bing with: codeium coding
That search will bring this product up in the first position. It's a shame that the specific "indexation" issues aren't shown, but did the author read the linked bing page to see the list of possible issues?
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#43If you experience negative seo attacks against your site then being de-indexed by Bing/DDG at some point is to be expected. They are simply not as smart as Google in this respect. You can go through the procedure of registering with their webmaster tools equivalent, submit a ticket and wait. Or you can simply just wait. In my limited experience (6 sites) the result was the same. Eventually it will resolve itself and…
thats unfortunate. yeah, we will submit a ticket - thanks for the pointer
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#44Last year, Bing and Edge erroneously flagged our website https://sheetjs.com/ as "dangerous": https://i.imgur.com/BvA3zrk.png At the time, there was no "Safety Report" to indicate why Bing thought it was dangerous. The report page linked to https://www.bing.com/toolbox/bing-site-safety?url=https%3a%2... and it said "That web page doesn't exist" To fix it, we had to register with "Bing Webmaster Tools" ( https://www.b…
This happened to a team I was on with Google Safe Browsing. The company was a competitor to Google in certain industries. An internal domain was flagged after a security researcher set up an intentionally vulnerable service and visited it in Chrome. The particular domain was shared with some other internal services which caused an internal outage. We registered in the Google Search Console, then leveraged some industry contacts and later our legal team (which had a friendly backchannel with Google's legal team) to escalate within Google. I believe our domains were given special treatment after that.
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#45Your website isn't quick to find by Duckduckgo or Qwant either. Yahoo doesn't seem to show much either. Startpage.com does find it, though.
I do consistently get your VS Code addon in the first page of search results, though.
When I open up your website I don't really see much. A brand name and some download links are all I can find. I'm not sure if there's much for search engines to find, really.
Your homepage also massively lags my browser for some reason, that can't help in terms of search rankings. It's also continuously downloading megabytes of data for some reason. You should try out your website on a cheap Android phone, your target audience may generally not use those but search engines definitely optimize for them.
> Now, is it really because we compete with Github? Honestly, probably not, but controversy drums up interest and we need interest so that someone out there on the Internet can tell us what we're doing wrong.
Mission succeeded, I suppose. You've got another popular link to your website through HN and you're getting free SEO advice on top. Sadly, you won't be able to get Bing support through here, HN tech support posts mostly attract Google and Stripe employees.
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#46Why should this codeium suddenly rocket past the already established codeium product that was indexed? Complaining is easy. SEO takes work. When searching bing with: codeium coding That search will bring this product up in the first position. It's a shame that the specific "indexation" issues aren't shown, but did the author read the linked bing page to see the list of possible issues?
Not sure what you mean here - our product does show up in the first position in Bing, it's just not our website, it's our listing on the VSCode marketplace. Our actual website doesn't even show up on Bing at all, irrespective of ranking.
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#47There's loads of stuff that Bing doesn't index very well. If you turn of JS there's almost no actual text on the site; only the FAQ has any serious amount of text. This probably doesn't help. Having the page open also really slows down my laptop and constantly uses ~50%-75% CPU and ~130M memory. No idea if that's a factor, but it takes quite a lot of computing resources to actually make the homepage render any text a…
JS-dependent sites are crawlable by bingbot, and Googlebot, and have been for years now. Otherwise, much of the modern web would be absent from search. Things can still happen, but it doesn't look like OP is doing anything unusual with rendering. If Google can crawl, I'd be surprised if Bing was entirely stumped (plus: meta descriptions).
> Having the page open also really slows down my laptop and constantly uses ~50%-75% CPU
OK here, for contrast: https://i.imgur.com/Qb2ux3o.png
> it takes quite a lot of computing resources to actually make the homepage render any text
On my own laptop, I see text in 100-200ms. A 3G connection on a simulated cheap mobile in Sao Paolo gets 2.3s: https://www.webpagetest.org/result/230209_AiDc5N_FKY/
These are both fine times: even a cheap device on a bad connection can get text rendering quickly. It's not a very taxing JS payload.
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#48Your website isn't quick to find by Duckduckgo or Qwant either. Yahoo doesn't seem to show much either. Startpage.com does find it, though. I do consistently get your VS Code addon in the first page of search results, though. When I open up your website I don't really see much. A brand name and some download links are all I can find. I'm not sure if there's much for search engines to find, really. Your homepage also…
DDG is powered by Bing, FWIW.
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#49Your website isn't quick to find by Duckduckgo or Qwant either. Yahoo doesn't seem to show much either. Startpage.com does find it, though. I do consistently get your VS Code addon in the first page of search results, though. When I open up your website I don't really see much. A brand name and some download links are all I can find. I'm not sure if there's much for search engines to find, really. Your homepage also…
Yeah someone else brought up webpage performance, which we will totally look into - definitely haven't fully tested on cheaper hardware. And wrt text, we have lots of blog posts, FAQ, etc to make sure that the term "codeium" amongst others appears a lot.
Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website
#50For all the hate Google gets, it's crawlers are like 10x smarter than any other search engine. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was some type of crawling issue that Google figured out and Bing didn't. This is a case where I'm not ready to attribute to malice what is very likely incompetence.
Operating 8.8.8.8 likely gives Google a near-complete list of every active domain on the internet, and new domains show up there the second any 8.8.8.8 user queries it - which is likely well before anyone links to it. I have no idea if Google use this data for hints to their crawler and indexer, but if I worked there I sure would.
I doubt they actually discover domains that way; for a search engine just knowing a domain exists isn't all that useful. Besides, loads of spam crawlers can find new domains plenty fast enough: create a brand new domain with a blank page and a brand new email address, link it once somewhere, and see how long it takes to get spam because some spam crawler bot found it.