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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by djfobbz »

davesque wrote: post #289
epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Yep. If Microsoft somehow overtakes Google from the back with Bing and ChatGPT, it'll be the tech coup of the century. And it's so fascinating how Google's position as an AI think tank put them at a tremendous disadvantage. They didn't cut a deal with OpenAI because why should they? After all, they originated much of the research that led to GPT3. But then they didn't really do anything with it at all because they di…

Do you see Edge using OS Chromium at its core being an issue?

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Post by alas44 »

zzzeek wrote: post #324
epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI a…

Wait and see, it seems this is not the exact same model than ChatGPT and it is able to cite sources

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by joxel »

enervation wrote: post #20

From the Verge's liveblogging ( https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/7/23588249/microsoft-event-a... ) "This is an important part of the presentation, but I just want to note that Microsoft is having to carefully explain how its new search engine will be prevented from helping to plan school shootings. "Early red teaming showed that the model could help plan attacks" on things like schools. "We don't want to aid in illega…

This is dumb shit just like journalists going onto YouTube every few years and finding incendiary videos. There will always be a way that a person can use something for evil, that’s not the fault of the thing.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by adrianmonk »

LrnByTeach wrote: post #305

Why Google named ChatGPT competitor as “Apprentice Bard”? Here's my take. "Apprentice is Barred from this AI race" is the phrase. "You (OpenAI) Apprentice are Barred from this AI race, because, well you are just an apprentice" To counter Sun Microsystems' dominance in the Java market, IBM named its IDE as "Eclipse."( blocking Sun). PS: To be clear, that is not my personal opinion of OpenAI, I believe OpenAI brought s…

I don't know, but I assumed Apprentice Bard was the name for the internal testing version, and that the name for the released version will just be Bard.

In other words, "apprentice" is just a cutesy variation on "beta", "testing", "pre-release", etc.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by noman-land »

SCLeo wrote: post #318
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #297

Big question, will it require an account? As evil as Google has become, you can still search things anonymously (kinda). Having access to someone's searches is like looking directly into their brain.

OT, I actually wrote a short erotic novel completely in the format of their search history.

Please post this, I would love to read it.

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Post by BalinKing »

manmal wrote: post #337
zzzeek wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI a…

I‘m not completely serious of course, but with all the p-hacking and irreproducibility going on, is that such a big problem? At least people will double-check results then.

I agree completely. I'm as skeptical as anyone else about AI/ML-but IMHO, the criticism that "now we won't know what's true" is a tacit admission that we've already given up on critical thinking. In this regard, I honestly think ChatGPT et al. has potential to be a net positive, by virtue of its incorrectness: Maybe it'll force people to question things that they wouldn't have felt the need to otherwise.

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Post by PhilippGille »

whoomp12342 wrote: post #338
juice_bus wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using (and paying for) Kagi[0] since June of last year, I quite enjoy it. [0] https://kagi.com/

dope. What are the free limits?

50 searches per 30 days: https://kagi.com/pricing

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Post by mensetmanusman »

shortrounddev wrote: post #354
unshavedyak wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea i've never thought of using Bing. In fact i generally hate my Windows experience and vastly prefer Linux. Yet when this goes live i'll be there, trying it out, seeing how ChatGPT can integrate into my searches, answer questions, etc. After all most Searches i execute are either direct questions or questions by proxy. I want to understand a specific function signature. I want to see the inputs, etc. This has been…

I've been full on the Microsoft train for the last few years and am glad to see it finally paying off. I will no longer have to feel ashamed when sharing my screen and accidentally showing my coworkers my thousands of Bing rewards points

You get paid to bing?

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Post by IceWreck »

yodon wrote: post #44

Is the https://bing.com/new link working? I'm not sure if it's not live yet or if I'm not seeing it because I'm checking from a Mac (via both Chrome and the OSX version of Edge)

Works for me. I can access 12 examples and join the waitlist.

Firefox on Linux, India.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by solarkraft »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

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IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

Yup. IE had to be really bad for people to switch away, but Edge is good enough (better in a few areas) and MS is pushing it hard.
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