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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Edge Surfer. Bring back the sense of expedition and wonder that came from Explorer, Safari, Navigator, and the old language of the www: cyber, surf, crawl/web. Although I think in the long run, the product category being under the Copilot bucket will work well. Instead of Cortana or Clippy, maybe an old Biplane.

Ah yes, the new googling: edging.

Reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/Hx-CRiSlqTk

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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For those of us who prefer traditional keyword based searches are there any search engines left that actually respect your query instead of trying to guess what you mean? I don't want to have a conversation with my search engine, I want it to return links based strictly on the keywords I provide.

https://search.brave.com/

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This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Yea i've never thought of using Bing. In fact i generally hate my Windows experience and vastly prefer Linux. Yet when this goes live i'll be there, trying it out, seeing how ChatGPT can integrate into my searches, answer questions, etc. After all most Searches i execute are either direct questions or questions by proxy. I want to understand a specific function signature. I want to see the inputs, etc. This has been…

I've been full on the Microsoft train for the last few years and am glad to see it finally paying off. I will no longer have to feel ashamed when sharing my screen and accidentally showing my coworkers my thousands of Bing rewards points

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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In a few years we might remember online web search similar to the internet catalog. Thinking, how were you able to navigate internet using that?

I don't think so... The AI Models aren't reliable, and often you want a catalog. If you're searching for a restaurant/product/etc, you want links and aggregated info to pick from (even if you go with "GPT's Top Choice" product). I don't think there is enough search queries that are actually "questions" to kill search. How often are people actually searching "what is easier to learn, a guitar or piano"?

I think a true "best case" for LLM based search is that it gets past the keyword searching and into semantic search. If I search Log4J's documentation on how to log errors, the best case search is to deep-link to the docs on that (even if I get the wording of functions wrong). Having Chat-du-jour tell me how to do it will be unreliable (or imprecise), and prevent me from diving deeper into the docs later. We've seen this recently in tons of HN front page postings the last week.

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Before long, we will have 10 ai-powered search engines. Here is an idea: create a website (or browser plugin) to organize the debate between search engines. That is, for every response from bing, send a question to bard ("I heard that ... Is it true?"), and then feed a response back to bing, etc., occasionally asking ddg to chime in. Suggested domain name: flamewar.ai

Now only $70/yr :-D https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?doma...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Until an AI can answer questions like "what 44-pad QFN has marking DM164495-12" I'm not interested. In fact I don't want conversational, I want grep. It's disturbing how much computing power is being spent on AI search when it could be used for something more like actual grep.

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Humanity always has a choice. The part where we rarely even pause to remember that a choice exists is the problem. Achieving AGI feels as consequential as learning to split the atom. Something else we regularly wish we had not done. The fact that we are running headlong towards potential catastrophe does not at any point prevent us from realizing this and taking a step back. I just hope we actually do.

I'm really, really surprised that you implied "we" regularly wish we hadn't discovered nulcear. How isn't it clear that nukes are what stopped us from getting into WWIII? Especially after cold war and what happened in Ukraine? The benefit of nuclear energy, which is already tremendous, is neglectable compared to that.

> How isn't it clear that nukes are what stopped us from getting into WWIII?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

We've been lucky.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Why Google named ChatGPT competitor as “Apprentice Bard”? Here's my take. "Apprentice is Barred from this AI race" is the phrase. "You (OpenAI) Apprentice are Barred from this AI race, because, well you are just an apprentice" To counter Sun Microsystems' dominance in the Java market, IBM named its IDE as "Eclipse."( blocking Sun). PS: To be clear, that is not my personal opinion of OpenAI, I believe OpenAI brought s…

I figured it had to do with Bard like the D&D class, ministrels that have a way with words etc.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

Edge is genuinely very very good. It does have some dev tool problems that I've run into, but for browser it's top notch.

Edge was good when it was a lightweight alternative to bloated Chrome, but in the last 2 years they've added so many unnecessary features that it's now noticeably slower.
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