You know, the other day windows 11 would not allow me to install git-scm, because it didnt come from the microsoft store.
I am sure this will go well.
Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
331–340 of 809 posts
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.
Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.
I once used it by mistake on a new install but once I realized it I downloaded Firefox* and unpinned the damn thing.
*)Edge actually had the audacity of trying to convince me I don't need another another browser once I typed "firefox download" in the search bar.
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#333Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#334This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?
Yep. If Microsoft somehow overtakes Google from the back with Bing and ChatGPT, it'll be the tech coup of the century. And it's so fascinating how Google's position as an AI think tank put them at a tremendous disadvantage. They didn't cut a deal with OpenAI because why should they? After all, they originated much of the research that led to GPT3. But then they didn't really do anything with it at all because they di…
Might become the largest case of the innovator's dilemma ever.
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its goal is to kill Google + Chrome i think. Profit comes later ?
Not if Microsoft kills itself in the process? At best it's a Pyrrhic victory as both companies sink enormous infra costs to outdo one another. Worst case could be like Nokia acquisition debacle a decade ago when Microsoft desperately tried to re-break into mobile and failed. There was a HN thread on this a while ago where consensus was serving cost ~$0.03-0.05 PER query, which is absolutely huge. Adds more credence t…
[deleted]
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#336I'm remembering a HN comment from yesterday that suggested Microsoft use this as an opportunity to rebrand bing... Kind of hilarious they thought calling it "new bing" was the way to go.
It's Microsoft. They haven't come up with a name for anything that wasn't daft or insane since the 90s.
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#337This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?
they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI a…
I‘m not completely serious of course, but with all the p-hacking and irreproducibility going on, is that such a big problem? At least people will double-check results then.
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#338For those of us who prefer traditional keyword based searches are there any search engines left that actually respect your query instead of trying to guess what you mean? I don't want to have a conversation with my search engine, I want it to return links based strictly on the keywords I provide.
I've been using (and paying for) Kagi[0] since June of last year, I quite enjoy it. [0] https://kagi.com/
dope. What are the free limits?
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#339So much for "citing its work." The answer I got here: https://www.bing.com/search?q=What%20cars%20should%20I%20con... Says the Tesla Model Y can go from 0 to 60 in 4.8 seconds, and has a citation link to a page that... doesn't even mention Tesla once.
I have no idea why you're being down voted but the ai response is indeed quoting nonsense (the link provided doesn't mention Tesla at all https://www.topspeed.com/cars/guides/best-awd-cars-for-2022/) and appears very authoritative - if this is a common (>1%) occurrence I'll just ignore these tools - fact checking then takes more time than searching traditionally
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#340Ok, here is a thought. In the frame of reference of “commoditizing your complement” (see Joel on software), you could argue that Google has been doing that for years to microsoft, by releasing Chrome, ChromeOS, and Android. This commoditized Microsoft’s business model, to some extent. Now, MS responded commendably well by changing there business model, but that does not change the fact of what Google did.
Would it not be amazing and poetic if Microsoft, in one fell swoop, commoditized search (which is 99% of Google’s business model)?