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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by rippercushions »

pphysch wrote: post #625
rippercushions wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's WordLens, which Google acquired in 2014, 9 years ago. https://techcrunch.com/2014/05/16/google-has-acquired-quest-...

Do you have a source that WordLens worked without an internet connection?

Yes, offline capability was there since day one.

The Android version of Word Lens actually launched last month [June 2012]. All of the features that made the iOS app interesting are available in the Android version, including completely offline translations.

https://lifehacker.com/word-lens-for-android-brings-offline-...

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

rossjudson wrote: post #445
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #218

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Didn’t Altman respond to Elon on Twitter and say an interaction cost 1 cent?

If Google handles 10 billion searches per day (guessing), what does that work out to?

100 million dollars

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by summerlight »

> We’re releasing it initially with our lightweight model version of LaMDA. This much smaller model requires significantly less computing power, enabling us to scale to more users, allowing for more feedback.

Even for Google, SOTA LLM is too expensive to be used as is. I would assume that this is not a groundshaking attempt but more to give investors confidences that it will stay relevant in the market.

Still, this response is quite fast in the Google's standard. People usually don't expect to bring a non-trivial launch to Search in a single quarter.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by BlueTemplar »

edgyquant wrote: post #655
EGreg wrote: post #549

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Well, according to Europe's Right to Forget, these AIs have to forget some stuff about you if you ask them to :)

You have to delete the data sure, but what about the “memories” the model has via its weights?

I have been asking myself this very question... it's easy to erase a paper adress book, not so much if your business has a non-human, like a parrot, who remembered that !

Note that this law is a problem for digital storage too : it's not easy to erase data (especially one stored in cold transistor storage) without physically destroying the storage medium. (I guess the law might get around this by having you "pinky promise" that you will not retrieve the "erased" data later... or else face much more dire legal consequences ??)

I guess this will just need to be tested in courts ?

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

nebula8804 wrote: post #380
hidelooktropic wrote: post #225

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Why is there an almost identical comment right below this one from a different user?

Sometimes people on poor connections click the send button twice and it registers as two separate messages.

It’s two different users.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by stcroixx »

jjeaff wrote: post #149
CabSauce wrote: post #30

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That's good for users, potentially. But not good for the sites where google is sourcing the information.

Potentially good for users initially. But I can't see how anyone will be incentivized to create and post content for Google to scrape if they won't have any traffic from Google. It could actually be a huge benefit in some ways if it chokes out the content mills. However, something tells me that they have little to no overhead compared to the people who actually toil away to post good, original content.

Robots.txt to block anonymous scraping and offer google the opportunity to purchase your sites content if they value it. Web traffic can switch to another provider to index. Google search will be nothing but content mill garbage unless they want to pay for their AI fuel.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by freediver »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #680
freediver wrote: post #353

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You do not need to constantly update the model. You just need to feed it with fresh data as inpput. Example to try that in action: https://labs.kagi.com/ai/context

I asked it: What happened today? It gave me news from April 9, 2022. What should I give it? Edit: Late comment because dang put me on the rate limit list and didn’t tell me.

It can't condense your daily news yet, but you can ask it something like this:

https://labs.kagi.com/ai/context?question=what+is+the+latest...?

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by cush »

alain94040 wrote: post #388
wiremine wrote: post #232

I agree this is bland corporate speak. But it reminded me of a question that's been floating around: A number of pundits, here on HN and elsewhere, keep referring to these large language models are "google killers." This just doesn't make sense to me. It feels like Google can easily pivot its ad engine to work with the AI-driven chat systems. It can augment answers with links to additional sources of information, be…

Those new language models are "Google killers" because they reset all the assumptions that people have made about search for several decades. Imagine that people start using those chat bots massively as a replacement for Google search. Then the notion of keyword disappears. Google AdSense becomes mostly irrelevant. Of course, Google is a giant today with a history of machine learning innovation. So they have a good c…

> Google AdSense becomes mostly irrelevant

AdSense is going to be able to be more targeted and relevant than ever before.

Last week, Linus Tech Tips used ChatGPT to build a Gaming PC... from parts selection to instructions on how to build. When chatGPT said, "first, select a CPU", Linus asked it questions like "What CPU should I choose, if I only care about gaming?", and got excellent answers.

I can imagine BestBuy, NewEgg, and Microcenter will be fighting for those top AdSense spots just as much as they do today

"Bard, I'm looking for a blender to make smoothies" ... "does it come in red?" ... "I want it to crush ice" BUY

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by [deleted] »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #304

Question for AI experts out there: ChatGPT is awesome, but it is obviously hamstrung by the fact that it crawled the web at the end of 2021, so all of its data is essentially "frozen" and it doesn't "know" of any topics that occurred after 2021. Seems to me like the next "holy grail" in large language models is building a model that can be continually updated. If Google can achieve that, I think they could leapfrog O…

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