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The biggest challenge is going to be filtering out the data that was created by ChatGPT itself or the competing LLMs, which are going to flood the market (and create a flood of web content) in the next few years. If they don't do that, they will create an AI that is essentially inbred.
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Translation: I received a lot of pressure from investors and Larry/Sergey, so I had to rush out an internal competitor to ChatGPT. It’s not going to be as good as ChatGPT initially, so I’m excusing it ahead by saying that we are using a smaller model than what we really have, in order to make it available to more users. However, we are really making it available only to a small group of users, because we need to cont…
I mean the statement is, not Bard itself.
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There’s a smaller surface are for ads in a targeted chat session. At present, Google can show me ads on the results page. Each subsequent result that I view is an additional slice of my attention. It’s possible that Google can deliver a few targeted ads, but what if they can’t? What about the rest of the market that’s now gone? Possible that all those missed opportunities remove the ability to discover price.
You completely ignore the fact that companies will show ads everywhere, there is no reason that they would not try to inject ads into chat. "Here is the answer to your question about oranges. But did you know Tropicana is made from 100% real orange juice?" "A project manager is a ... Often the software project managers use is Zoho Projects for the best agile sprint planning" If they can put ads in it, there will be a…
This is the first time that the primary cash cow has been seriously threatened, and it’s not unreasonable to bet against Google winning the scramble to figure out a chat AI ad strategy (or any product strategy) that would keep them in their current near-monopoly position.
I agree this is bland corporate speak. But it reminded me of a question that's been floating around: A number of pundits, here on HN and elsewhere, keep referring to these large language models are "google killers." This just doesn't make sense to me. It feels like Google can easily pivot its ad engine to work with the AI-driven chat systems. It can augment answers with links to additional sources of information, be…
That is, the cat is out of the bag:
ChatGPT not only showed us the power of AI, but it showed us a bunch of non-AI things like:
- Ad-free results - Clutter-free results - The elegance of not having to click on links
A competitor could capitalize on this, putting Google's ad-driven, click-driven, clutter-driven model at serious risk.
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Anyone else remember the beginnings of youtube? Google tried to compete with them, with their own Google Videos. It sucked - and I remember reading how the engineers running it couldn't even figure out why they lost. In the end, Google just had to buy their competition, because they couldn't figure out any other way to win. They've tried to compete elsewhere, too, and I don't think they've ever been able to make a go…
Google already has a trackrecord of beating Microsoft. Do you remember Windows Phone? Well Google made Android in response to Windows Phone + Bing threat not in response to iPhone.
Satya Nadella seems way more tuned into the zeitgeist. His heavy bet on OpenAI may seem excessive, but at worst it's going to be cheap insurance and at best may be a game changer.
I think Google's producing Android was a reaction to BOTH iPhone and Windows Phone - they didn't want to be frozen out of the mobile advertizing market by competitors that owned the platforms.
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>Those new language models are "Google killers" because they reset all the assumptions that people have made about search for several decades. Imagine that people start using those chat bots massively as a replacement for Google search. Then the notion of keyword disappears. Google AdSense becomes mostly irrelevant. Look up the term "native advertising", that should help you in understanding how online ad ecosystem w…
How so? How does native advertising solve the problem of diminishing volumes of keyword searches? How does it even relate to search ads?
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It still can be a Google killer even if Google comes up with something better because Google makes its money from sending people to the highest bidder. So far there's no clear path to make money from ChatGPT, let alone match the sum Google is making from Search. If this new paradigm dominates the way people use computers and it's not as profitable as Search, Google might indeed have to scale back.
ChatGPT can make money by subscriptions, or they can also put ads next to the chat?
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Google could ask the llm what products or services would help with the question and show ads for that. Just tried it and it worked pretty well. > Me: 8 year old girl birthday party ideas > Chatgpt: > Me: what products or services could I buy for it > Chatgpt: craft party: craft supplies such as beads, glue, paint, and fabric - scavengerhunt: prizes for the scavenger hunt and decorations - dance party: Hire a DJ or a…
The question becomes will you trust information that is paid for by advertisers or you will trust information that is paid by you, the user? With ads in link based search engine, you can skip or block them, but if it is a part of a one sentence answer, there is not much you can do about it, so consuming it will be much more frustrating. Of course, there will still be a lot of people who will choose the free informati…
I was able to see LaMDA in action about 1.5 years ago. It was just as awe-inducing as ChatGPT. Google is not behind in this race. They're simply slower to roll out new functionality. And maybe rightly so? Some of the things I saw ChatGPT say would have been multi-day international bad headlines for Google, if a Google AI had said them instead of an upstart startup.
Why is there an almost identical comment right below this one from a different user?
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I don't think most people realize how much infrastructure separates something like ChatGPT from Google-scale deployment. OpenAI isn't suddenly building transoceanic fiber and datacenters near most major population centers. They aren't signing production-ready contract vehicles with most major OEMs and governments. And in the gap it would take a new entrant to acquire 10% of those assets, Google has 100,000 engineers…
Google cannot make a good SMS app for Android. They will never be able to launch a simple chat bot. What they will launch will be a monstrosity. The only Google AI product that people will use is any AI embedded within their existing apps and services...which is a great thing, but I wouldn't bet on Google being able to launch any new product that would have a decent UX.