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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by unethical_ban »

It is absolutely critical for our society that this technology, at its full power, be developed open source to the public.

That presents dangers to society. Educating citizens on the ubiquity of human-like text being generated by bots is one challenge. Knowing that bad actors will be able to use these models for evil is another. "Write a convincing 10 page manifesto on the dangers this religious minority poses to societal cohesion" or "tell me a cost effective way to create an IED that won't set off suspected red flags per Texas statutes, and how to deploy it in an urban area for maximum impact".

The risk of this technology being contained to Google and governments, on the other hand, is to grant them monopoly on unmatched analysis of data in the history of the world, purely for profit and the continuation of power. Free thought will be crippled via only approved questions being permitted, all queries analyzes and monitored by the central authority.

We must all own this technology.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by nickstinemates »

KennyFromIT wrote: post #116
warent wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got you: https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum?url=https://blog.google/technol... Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google and Alphabet, has announced the release of Bard, an experimental conversational AI service powered by Google's Language Model for Dialogue Applications (LaMDA). Bard seeks to combine the breadth of the world's knowledge with the power, intelligence and creativity of Google's large language models. It draws on informa…

Wow, thank you for that link. Now I have a new bookmarklet... javascript:location.href=' https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum?url='+encodeURIComponent(locati...

Formatting is a little messed up, but great idea here.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by Miraste »

sethbannon wrote: post #161

I was able to see LaMDA in action about 1.5 years ago. It was just as awe-inducing as ChatGPT. Google is not behind in this race, they're simply slower to roll out new functionality. And maybe rightly so? Some of the things I saw ChatGPT say would have been multi-day international bad headlines for Google, if a Google AI had said them instead of an upstart startup.

Caution is well and good, but when I look at top selling computers there's a conspicuous lack of Xerox branding.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by gundmc »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #131
gundmc wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For free email? That is patently untrue.

No one came close to gmail's 1GB free inbox at the time. Which kept increasing and showed you at the bottom of the inbox. Plus it had amazing spam detection, and was stupid fast, and got better and better very quickly. I remember having a gmail email was almost a litmus test to whether or not you were paying attention to what was going on in tech. Not having a gmail email indicated you might not be keeping up with th…

Agreed on all your points! But I think offering a better service in an established sector is the opposite of "no competition" and being a "first mover".

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by carom »

nblgbg wrote: post #53
techn00 wrote: post #10

"But increasingly, people are turning to Google for deeper insights and understanding" I'm just trying to just get relevant results for my query man ...

My standard habbit when I don't find what I want is to append site:reddit.com site:news.ycombinator.com site:github.com site:stackoverflow.com. Mostly I get what I wanted!

Which is funny because those results get us human insight into our topics. Most top results now are completely non-sensical SEO generated word dumps. Google's search engine rating programs have failed beyond belief.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by dizzydes »

samwillis wrote: post #174
dizzydes wrote: post #46

> Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search Despite this blog obviously being written for Wall St, this line is key. This is why anyone is going to struggle to compete with Google in AI. Google Search is used so widely and its taxonomy of meaning so vast already that once they flip this on they’ll be unstoppable. (Assuming any rate of improvement whatsoever as we search.) I’m not mentioning all other learning da…

Google is on a collision course with regulators over search. If they are seen to be taking yet more content and knowledge from websites and "republishing" it they are going to find themselves with large fines and sanctions. I think they are too "big" to really push AI, it needs smaller companies willing to take a higher risk.

Fair. Moreover, what are search or even content websites for if Google gobble up all that knowledge and distil it out.

But with China, Russia and India lurking, perhaps Congress might drag their feet on reigning AI in. Google Cloud are now poised to be going for some pretty decent govt contracts.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by oars »

I was able to see LaMDA in action about 1.5 years ago. It was just as awe-inducing as ChatGPT. Google is not behind in this race. They're simply slower to roll out new functionality. And maybe rightly so? Some of the things I saw ChatGPT say would have been multi-day international bad headlines for Google, if a Google AI had said them instead of an upstart startup.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by sxp »

frozenlettuce wrote: post #144

I'm still waiting for their appointment registering AI that they promised 5 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVCFcEBKLM Instead, we got some souless corporate-speak PR spam - and I'm sure that if I type "create a product release text for a new AI product" on ChatGPT I will surely get something better. Compared with the comic that introduced Chrome, this feels like another company - well, sadly, it is indeed…

It exists. I tried to book a reservation with a small restaurant via Google Maps which didn't have an OpenTable site. It called the restaurant and then emailed me a confirmation a few minutes later.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by status200 »

andrewstuart wrote: post #60

Lotus 123, Borland and Wordperfect were at the top of the software world. They failed to make the transition to GUIs/Windows. Microsoft missed the arrival of the web. Microsoft also missed the mobile revolution and ended up with zero mobile operating system market share. Internet Explorer, having vanquished Netscape, declared "job done" and stopped developing the web browser further, only to be cast to irrelevance fo…

Agreed on the trust part - at this point i would expect Bard to start incorporating ads into its responses as soon as they had any sort of market dominance (If it is even competitive enough to achieve that).
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