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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by lotsofpulp »

gundmc wrote: post #123
mupuff1234 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because there was no competition and they were the first movers.

For free email? That is patently untrue.

No one came close to gmail's 1GB free inbox at the time. Which kept increasing and showed you at the bottom of the inbox. Plus it had amazing spam detection, and was stupid fast, and got better and better very quickly.

I remember having a gmail email was almost a litmus test to whether or not you were paying attention to what was going on in tech. Not having a gmail email indicated you might not be keeping up with the times.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by cyrux004 »

chatGpt summary

>Google has created a new conversational AI service named Bard that uses the company's language model, LaMDA, to provide answers to user inquiries by drawing on information from the internet. It is being made available to trusted testers before a wider release in the coming weeks. Google intends to use AI to improve search and make it easier for users to find information and insights more efficiently. AI-powered features for Google Search will soon be rolled out to distill complex information into easy-to-digest formats. Additionally, Google is working to make it easier for developers to use AI by making the company's best models available for use in their projects

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by smoldesu »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #90
enumjorge wrote: post #25

> And today, we’re [...] opening it up to trusted testers ahead of making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks. It feels like a mistake to make the big announcement for this, but not open it up to a wide audience. It's not like ChatGPT hasn't been out for months now. Not sure how much they gain by making headlines before it's ready for people to play with it.

The announcement is probably targeting Wall Street more than any potential "user" (aka advertising target). The press was already bad - internal "code red" at Google due to panic that people saw ChatGPT as an alternative to search. Meta/FaceBook's head of AI, Yann LeCun, is in similar panic mode, issuing a non-stop torrent of tweets about how useless and unimpressive ChatGPT has... Presumably a reflection that FaceBo…

FWIW, Facebook's AI division has made some pretty insane contributions to the field relative to Google or Apple. I wouldn't disregard the stuff they're doing, even if I personally don't have a stake in Facebook or Meta's success.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #84
ddalex wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a reactionary move, but Bard existed for months on the intranet, but not as a public offering. So they have the technology but not the product.

Presumably this was the infamous tech that got that one worker fired because he thought it was sentient and wanted to blow the whistle on unethical AI treatment right? This story: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/business/google-ai-engineer-f... It would be funny if Google hastily rehires him as a marketing evangelist to show people their AI is so good you think it's alive.

In one sense, yes, but to me that felt more like a mental illness story than anything else, which would make it much less funny (apologies to the person involved if it was not).

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by daveidol »

chipgap98 wrote: post #105
andrewstuart wrote: post #60

Lotus 123, Borland and Wordperfect were at the top of the software world. They failed to make the transition to GUIs/Windows. Microsoft missed the arrival of the web. Microsoft also missed the mobile revolution and ended up with zero mobile operating system market share. Internet Explorer, having vanquished Netscape, declared "job done" and stopped developing the web browser further, only to be cast to irrelevance fo…

Microsoft feels like an outlier on this list. They are thriving right now. Also, there are still many categories of things that ChatGPT-like bots can't help with yet, such as shopping. I think we're still very early in this cycle. That doesn't mean Google will succeed, but it feels premature to be writing their obituary.

Very true. Although, as an aside since you brought it up: I will say shopping on Google has gotten far worse these days days with all the SEO optimized "top 10 best X" pages that are basically just affiliate link spam with extremely limited value / product testing / insight.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by gpt5 »

Translation: I received a lot of pressure from investors and Larry/Sergey, so I had to rush out an internal competitor to ChatGPT.

It’s not going to be as good as ChatGPT initially, so I’m excusing it ahead by saying that we are using a smaller model than what we really have, in order to make it available to more users. However, we are really making it available only to a small group of users, because we need to control the bad PR.

But hey, our dataset is more fresh than ChatGPT, so it can answer a JWST question!

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by dizzydes »

londons_explore wrote: post #88
dizzydes wrote: post #46

> Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search Despite this blog obviously being written for Wall St, this line is key. This is why anyone is going to struggle to compete with Google in AI. Google Search is used so widely and its taxonomy of meaning so vast already that once they flip this on they’ll be unstoppable. (Assuming any rate of improvement whatsoever as we search.) I’m not mentioning all other learning da…

I wonder how long till they open it up to your private data stored in Google? Eg. User: What should I be doing today? AI: You have a court appearance at 9am. Prioritize that, because failing to appear might result in an arrest warrant. Next, prioritize your mums birthday - all the other family will be there, and with your mums cancer results last week, this might be the last. If you travel between them by bus, then y…

Yea this isn’t a huge reach.

At that point the line between commerce and giving the best advice is going to get REALLY messy.

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