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CabSauce wrote: post #30
alexb_ wrote: post #9

>AI can be helpful in these moments, synthesizing insights for questions where there’s no one right answer. Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search that distill complex information and multiple perspectives into easy-to-digest formats, so you can quickly understand the big picture and learn more from the web: whether that’s seeking out additional perspectives, like blogs from people who play both piano and gui…

That's good for users, potentially. But not good for the sites where google is sourcing the information.

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Post by dpflan »

brap wrote: post #206

I’m curious to hear why Google isn’t going to win in this AI arms race. The way I see it, Google: * is effectively the gateway to the internet, owning the most popular website in the world, mobile OS, and browser * has infinite LIVE data, both unstructured and structured (knowledge graph) * has infinite compute resources * employs the world’s best AI scientists and invests heavily in AI * has decade(s) of experience…

I also think Google is well resourced/positioned. Though, I am wondering: what does winning the AI arms race mean? The AI needs to be in some useful products/services?

Perhaps it creates specialization for the "internet gateways", where the dominant companies for each major type of internet gateway entrench themselves further?

- Meta (FB) as the social door, with more useful AI for socializing?

- Microsoft is the document app door, with more useful AI for creating documents?

- ...

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Post by chipgap98 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #154
chipgap98 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is also opportunity cost though. Maybe if they succeeded in mobile then they would have missed Teams. Its hard to say that the side effects from missing that wave were exclusively negative.

Using Teams as a not negative example is very odd.

They have crushed Slack with Teams and it is the backbone of their enterprise offering. Am I missing something?

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

hidelooktropic wrote: post #225
oars wrote: post #198

I was able to see LaMDA in action about 1.5 years ago. It was just as awe-inducing as ChatGPT. Google is not behind in this race. They're simply slower to roll out new functionality. And maybe rightly so? Some of the things I saw ChatGPT say would have been multi-day international bad headlines for Google, if a Google AI had said them instead of an upstart startup.

Why is there an almost identical comment right below this one from a different user?

Yes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34683114

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by me551ah »

AI is the evolution of search that we always wanted. Everytime I search, I open the first few links and find the information there. It's a very repeatable task, like looking for the right stackoverflow answer or digging through imdb to find the right movie or searching reddit/HN threads. It's about time this was automated.

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Post by tonymet »

AI fact summarization like this will further obfuscate the facts from the summary. People already believe the top 3 posts from Google are the benchmark for truth. Now customers won't even see the sources (e.g. MSNBC, Wikipedia) of the "facts".

Google is deliberately biasing results in the name of ML-fairness, which may be laudable. Now the bias will be even harder to distinguish from fact.

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Post by chipgap98 »

xiphias2 wrote: post #182
chipgap98 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is also opportunity cost though. Maybe if they succeeded in mobile then they would have missed Teams. Its hard to say that the side effects from missing that wave were exclusively negative.

Quite the opposite. If they have owned mobile + desktop, they could have a much stronger integration, and we wouldn't be Google first with our apps.

Yeah that's a good point with regards to integration. I still think the Microsoft that wins in mobile looks very different from the Microsoft we know today.

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Post by robterrell »

londons_explore wrote: post #88
dizzydes wrote: post #46

> Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search Despite this blog obviously being written for Wall St, this line is key. This is why anyone is going to struggle to compete with Google in AI. Google Search is used so widely and its taxonomy of meaning so vast already that once they flip this on they’ll be unstoppable. (Assuming any rate of improvement whatsoever as we search.) I’m not mentioning all other learning da…

I wonder how long till they open it up to your private data stored in Google? Eg. User: What should I be doing today? AI: You have a court appearance at 9am. Prioritize that, because failing to appear might result in an arrest warrant. Next, prioritize your mums birthday - all the other family will be there, and with your mums cancer results last week, this might be the last. If you travel between them by bus, then y…

Fun exercise for the reader: how much of this is actually possible with LLMs and how much is not.

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Post by [deleted] »

brap wrote: post #206

I’m curious to hear why Google isn’t going to win in this AI arms race. The way I see it, Google: * is effectively the gateway to the internet, owning the most popular website in the world, mobile OS, and browser * has infinite LIVE data, both unstructured and structured (knowledge graph) * has infinite compute resources * employs the world’s best AI scientists and invests heavily in AI * has decade(s) of experience…

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Post by jklinger410 »

wiremine wrote: post #232

I agree this is bland corporate speak. But it reminded me of a question that's been floating around: A number of pundits, here on HN and elsewhere, keep referring to these large language models are "google killers." This just doesn't make sense to me. It feels like Google can easily pivot its ad engine to work with the AI-driven chat systems. It can augment answers with links to additional sources of information, be…

Google was already going this route. ChatGPT is simply pushing GOOG and META to go faster.

Simple as.

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