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Post by pleasantpeasant »

miramba wrote: post #173
andrewstuart wrote: post #60

Lotus 123, Borland and Wordperfect were at the top of the software world. They failed to make the transition to GUIs/Windows. Microsoft missed the arrival of the web. Microsoft also missed the mobile revolution and ended up with zero mobile operating system market share. Internet Explorer, having vanquished Netscape, declared "job done" and stopped developing the web browser further, only to be cast to irrelevance fo…

The results of Google today really look like Altavista in 1999. I started using you.com, which looks like Google 10 years ago. You get actual non-SEO-optimized search results on the first page. I‘m sure that will change once more people use it, but at the moment I have a working search engine again.

Google should release whatever that ex-dev was going on about some sentient AI that Google has looked up.

I think Google has enough capital, brand recognition, and customer dependence, that they could get away with missing some of the AI hype train for now.

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Post by esskay »

londons_explore wrote: post #88
dizzydes wrote: post #46

> Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search Despite this blog obviously being written for Wall St, this line is key. This is why anyone is going to struggle to compete with Google in AI. Google Search is used so widely and its taxonomy of meaning so vast already that once they flip this on they’ll be unstoppable. (Assuming any rate of improvement whatsoever as we search.) I’m not mentioning all other learning da…

I wonder how long till they open it up to your private data stored in Google? Eg. User: What should I be doing today? AI: You have a court appearance at 9am. Prioritize that, because failing to appear might result in an arrest warrant. Next, prioritize your mums birthday - all the other family will be there, and with your mums cancer results last week, this might be the last. If you travel between them by bus, then y…

I'd imagine it'll be something they do. Hooking it into things you've told assistant, documents you've stored, emails, calendar events, map data, etc.

Pretty creepy and a tad dystopian but thats Google for you.

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Post by amelius »

daveidol wrote: post #86
CabSauce wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's good for users, potentially. But not good for the sites where google is sourcing the information.

That's one of the big problems with these types of AI - piggybacking on everyone else's work, typically with no attribution _whatsoever_.

Yet you better cooperate otherwise you won't get any visitors at all.

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Post by asim »

People forget that Larry Page's ultimate goal was to have Google predict what you wanted before you even asked for it. This isn't about hype. This isn't about beating the competition. This is about delivering on a 3 decade dream that's now coming to fruition and Sundar just happens to be the one leading the org as it manifests in the real world. We're going to end up with 10+ vertically integrated AI solutions like this. Google will be core infrastructure for the world and this thing will be an assistant to everyone who buys into the Google ecosystem.

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Post by hidelooktropic »

oars wrote: post #198

I was able to see LaMDA in action about 1.5 years ago. It was just as awe-inducing as ChatGPT. Google is not behind in this race. They're simply slower to roll out new functionality. And maybe rightly so? Some of the things I saw ChatGPT say would have been multi-day international bad headlines for Google, if a Google AI had said them instead of an upstart startup.

Why is there an almost identical comment right below this one from a different user?

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Post by julianeon »

brap wrote: post #206

I’m curious to hear why Google isn’t going to win in this AI arms race. The way I see it, Google: * is effectively the gateway to the internet, owning the most popular website in the world, mobile OS, and browser * has infinite LIVE data, both unstructured and structured (knowledge graph) * has infinite compute resources * employs the world’s best AI scientists and invests heavily in AI * has decade(s) of experience…

I also don't understand why everyone is sure that "search is over" because you can ask AI to teach you, for example, first semester calculus.

That's great and all but that's not where the money is. Where is the money? It's in queries like "greek food near me", "best earbuds 2023", "replace sparkplug Honda motorcycle." Simple, monetizable questions that are extremely context dependent and constantly changing.

For that you'll continue to need search.

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

dizzydes wrote: post #196
samwillis wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is on a collision course with regulators over search. If they are seen to be taking yet more content and knowledge from websites and "republishing" it they are going to find themselves with large fines and sanctions. I think they are too "big" to really push AI, it needs smaller companies willing to take a higher risk.

Fair. Moreover, what are search or even content websites for if Google gobble up all that knowledge and distil it out. But with China, Russia and India lurking, perhaps Congress might drag their feet on reigning AI in. Google Cloud are now poised to be going for some pretty decent govt contracts.

I know this wasn’t your point, but now I’m wondering if countries like India can afford GPU intensive search results.

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Post by aliqot »

brap wrote: post #206

I’m curious to hear why Google isn’t going to win in this AI arms race. The way I see it, Google: * is effectively the gateway to the internet, owning the most popular website in the world, mobile OS, and browser * has infinite LIVE data, both unstructured and structured (knowledge graph) * has infinite compute resources * employs the world’s best AI scientists and invests heavily in AI * has decade(s) of experience…

This is an interesting take that I also share to an extent, however there is a catch, it depends on Google's ability to sustain an offshoot product, which as time has shown despite endless amounts of money and talent, they're unable to do.

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brap wrote: post #206

I’m curious to hear why Google isn’t going to win in this AI arms race. The way I see it, Google: * is effectively the gateway to the internet, owning the most popular website in the world, mobile OS, and browser * has infinite LIVE data, both unstructured and structured (knowledge graph) * has infinite compute resources * employs the world’s best AI scientists and invests heavily in AI * has decade(s) of experience…

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