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As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Problem is that this technology breaks our understanding of causality. So it isn't a "less wrong" type of situation so much as we have to rewrite everything. Specifically it means things that happen in the future can affect things in the past (communication past the light cone). The discoveries of quantum and relativity didn't break classical mechanics so much as extend it. But to rewrite how a sequence of events hap…

> Specifically it means things that happen in the future can affect things in the past (communication past the light cone). Sure, and that's not a problem so as long as self-consistency is preserved. > But to rewrite how a sequence of events happens, well that's a big fundamental change. Depends how you look at it. There are retrocausal explanations of quantum mechanics, for instance.

> Sure, and that's not a problem so as long as self-consistency is preserved.

You break the lightcone...

> Depends how you look at it. There are retrocausal explanations of quantum mechanics, for instance.

Let me save people the time, there's critiques at the bottom but there is no actual evidence for retrocausal explanations: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-retrocausality/

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Fravor admitted to UFO pranks in the 90s (gliding over camp fires and then turning on afterburners). Some were found reported on UFO forums at the time.

I would not say he admitted it. More like told it as a funny anecdote in juxtaposition to what he experienced.

People went back and found UFO reports on 90s forums for the location he said he did it.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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There's a real problem with people being close-minded towards anything that seems fantastical. This includes scientists and other professionals who ought to know better. Obviously it's unscientific to jump to conclusions and assume that anything that doesn't make sense must be aliens or magic or whatever but at the same time, it's also unscientific to ignore physical observations just because they seem like something…

I am not. However, I do not accept a closed-minded alien. The alien is interested in particular US military installations but not in me? Okay, maybe not me, but wouldn't the pyramids be more interesting? This makes it boils down to 1. sensors artifacts, 2. US military program not shared with all pilots or 3. another country collecting data on US.

Pilots promoting what they know to be sensor artifacts as aliens, to prank the public.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Check out the debunk of the debunk :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBt4CNHyAck

Also the debunk of the debunk of the debunk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1uRf5_dF4

Curious, what does a debunk-turtle look like?

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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The pulsating in the NARCAP video looks like the camera trying and failing to find focus on anything that it's looking at. Interesting though.

Camera autofocus is commonly brought up but in this case the crewmen were able to attest to the pulsating with their eyeballs, in addition to the other strange behaviour as noted in their testimony.

I get that same pulsing with my eyeballs when I'm tired and having trouble focusing on things.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Its speculation that it was sensor glare, boke etc. Hardly convincing at all considering its some YouTuber basing his research on grainy video. Speculation that also does not factor in multi eye witness accounts and radar measurements.

I know of eye witnesses that have seen a pig fly, and I have data that shows pigs can fly. Clearly this means pigs can fly.

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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They already responded to FOIA requests, briefed Congress publicly and privately, and announced AARO when they didn't have to. We're pretty well-informed, and Congress has some oversight. It's very ordinary.

This subject is anything but ordinary. The former Deputy Secretary of Defense for Intelligence wrote a blog alleging that there are black projects hidden within DoD contractors that are reverse engineering non-human intelligence craft. He's presented enough evidence to congress for them to add specific legislation to bring these programs to light.

If that's true, then clearly they're doing something about it, so I don't understand why you think they're not doing enough for security. If it is aliens, why would they confirm it and start a race to get alien tech first? You can wait a bit for them to figure it out. If it's not aliens, why would they reveal the details of classified information?

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Not to mention, "that life is appearing to deliberately be almost completely elusive for no clear reason, in a way that's eerily similar to other superstitions like mermaids, fairies, Santa Claus, and Big foot."

Do active duty jet pilots report seeing mermaids, fairies, Santa Claus, or Big foot on a regular basis?

> mermaids

Professional sailors do.

> big foot

Professional park rangers do.

They're all full of shit by the way. Self-deluding or purposely tricking the public for laughs.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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giant squid have a biological premise; they're just bigger squid. Their origin can be strongly guessed. You would be smart to guess that there are bigger copies of nearly any remote species in the ocean. we have yet to find a plethora of ocean-dwelling smaller mermaids and 'tic-tacs'. In fact, we've yet to discover solid evidence of the existence of either phenomena, regardless of size. Chances start to diminish in t…

Giant squid was dismissed as tall tales for hundreds of years. Would a mermaid creature be something improbable to an ancient mariner, who hadn't even heard of anything like a monkey before he saw them with his own eyes? > You would be smart to guess that there are bigger copies of nearly any remote species in the ocean. Would you then say it is probable that species of giant shark exist to this day?

When mariners tell tails of giant squid so huge they can devour ships, they are rightly dismissed as tall tales. When they tell a story about a squid that was "about as big as a person but with really long tentacles", I don't think that ever got nearly as much ridicule.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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> New Radar 80kft in a second? Remember that the speed of sound is ~1.1kfps (at atm). But 80 times that? The sonic boom from that would be INSANE. I'm going with new radar new glitch. Per the video, they don't describe seeing this movement except on radar and, from my understanding, not the other object with their physical eyes but the weapons systems (which the 60 minutes video even shows an example of a glitch with…

Your original comment was about "Most of these weren't things pilots saw with their physical eyes." - the interview I linked to seems to contradict that statement? Two pilots at the 8 minute mark go into depth about witnessing them.

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