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As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Here’s the thing that gets me. A 767 costs hundreds of millions of dollars and yet I’ve filmed better videos with a potato. Why is the pilot filming with his smartphone? Why does the plane not have a sophisticated high-quality purpose-built camera system that can record phenomena like this?

Huh? Are you seriously asking why commercial airliners don’t have 4K GoPros to record UAP/UFOs?

Yes. Why is that unreasonable?

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Huh? Are you seriously asking why commercial airliners don’t have 4K GoPros to record UAP/UFOs?

Many commercial airlines at least international (like emirates) have cameras all over. You can even watch it from your seat.

They’re not 4K and they’re not meant to be aimed at UAPs. IME they don’t have long term storage either.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Glad to see this topic finally discussed here. With the shift in government posture and establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office ( https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/310005... ) it will only be a matter of time until more service members come forward with their experiences and enough data is gathered to ascertain the inevitable: these craft are real and we've been visited by nonhum…

I do remember the comment thread on the 2017 time article here on hn. Opinions already have changed considerably in the last 5 years. It also appears as if the process of disseminating information still accelerates (with promis coming out as experiencers and so on). I can only advise everyone to consider C.G. Jung and read Jaques Vallee. This situation is very complicated, but not at all bad in the end. As far as I c…

Could you expand on how Jung is related? I think of him as a researcher in psychology which doesn't seem connected? I may be missing what you are getting at.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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I really wish people would take a look at the extensive analysis some scientists have done to show the 3 navy videos of UAP are showing flight characteristics that defy our laws of physics. This guy on Twitter has done a fantastic job to show the GIMBAL object performed what we can only describe as a “vertical u-turn” https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1504855791060148224?s=... This paper shows the tic tac video e…

This seems like strong evidence that the "tic tac" is not a flying object per se, but rather something like the focal point of a high-E-field laser? (Or a crossing point between two such beams?)

If the object in question is not a physical object so much as a light show, it could undergo all sorts of impossible manouevres including instantaneous acceleration and even the appearance of exceeding the speed of light.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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What do you want people to get out of those analyses? They quantify the incredible observations, but they don't explain how those observations could be possible, nor rule out other explanations.

At least in terms of the 3 navy video, I would argue that the data purports, with high confidence, that the craft did exhibit flight performance characteristics that we cannot explain with modern technology or physics. And these are just the three videos that got released. Many people with security clearances have come forward and said the AATIP database has hundreds videos (with the classified sensor data) of craft…

Three videos is not a preponderance of data. The number of photos taken in the past day exceeds the number of photos taken in the past year exceeds the number of photos taken in the 20th century. We have cameras in space, we have cameras everywhere we have people, so then where is the expected increase in observations? UFO sightings have been relatively steady, with peaks and valleys as the zeitgeist ebbs and flows. If we don't assume UFO presence as constant (ie it might go down when we have more observing capabilities) then there's little information to be learned. At some point it turns into metaphysics.

Case studies are great, but I have not seen convincing, properly skeptical analyses. As they say: it's never aliens. People, unfortunately, are typically willing to see what they want to see.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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I'm skeptical and so lean pragmatic on the issue. Fighter pilots at risk? If the military believed that they would already be fully engaged in solving the problem. In which case there is little for me or any other civilian to do. And you say fighter pilots at risk but, and this will sound callous, an actual incident that caused a loss of aircraft would be more compelling. It does away with the may be at risk proposit…

If you want to understand the stigma of reporting UAPs as a military pilot, see Ryan Graves interview with Lex Fridman: https://youtu.be/qLDp-aYnR1Y > There isn't going to be a secret program that is so far advanced that it counters known physical laws. I think you've misread this part--parent is not saying these are ours, not at all. We're all in agreement that if what we're seeing is real, these would be non-human…

> these would be non-human in origin.

So they must be natural in origin. There's no other option.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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post #76

These videos just look like optical artifacts of the lenses of the cameras, as discussed here: https://youtu.be/jHDlfIaBEqw Is there any evidence that there's more to these videos than that?

The countless eye witnesses for one.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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I think what bothers us most about incidents like this is that any country or human organization that had massive air superiority over everyone else would inevitably use it to their advantage. And yet, here are the reports, but no one is coming forward to say "yes, we Canadians actually never cancelled the Avro Arrow and have been decades ahead of the rest of you all this time- now please remove that Danish flag from…

This assumes the advancements can give a significant military advantage, through cost of production and overall military effectiveness.

And that the behaviour of other countries could be a problem to the manufacturing country--trade and cooperation etc.

And if the advancements are used for spying then of course they'll be kept quiet for as long as possible.

Showing your cards early, even if you think they're good, may not be the best approach.

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