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We had AATIP and now we have UAPTF. They do stuff and brief Congress about it. Why is that not good enough?
UAPTF is now AARO. But it’s not enough for congress to be briefed. If what we’re seeing is a better understanding of physics, than this would affect everyone’s lives
Glad to see this topic finally discussed here. With the shift in government posture and establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office ( https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/310005... ) it will only be a matter of time until more service members come forward with their experiences and enough data is gathered to ascertain the inevitable: these craft are real and we've been visited by nonhum…
I do remember the comment thread on the 2017 time article here on hn. Opinions already have changed considerably in the last 5 years. It also appears as if the process of disseminating information still accelerates (with promis coming out as experiencers and so on). I can only advise everyone to consider C.G. Jung and read Jaques Vallee. This situation is very complicated, but not at all bad in the end. As far as I c…
Reality may be not as we think.
If you haven't listened to it yet, highly recommend the Ryan Graves episode on the Joe Rogan Experience.
The press and politicians started hyping up the UFO issue last year when it was clear that we were headed for cold war 2.0. It is a great narrative to get more funding, get people interested in space and the MIC, etc. The timing is suspect, it seems like just another manufactured crisis.
Never let a good crisis go to waste, etc.
For example with project bluebook, UFO sightings have been discredited through ridicule and served double duty as smokescreen for legitimate secret military development such as the U2 spy plane.
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UAPTF is now AARO. But it’s not enough for congress to be briefed. If what we’re seeing is a better understanding of physics, than this would affect everyone’s lives
Then maybe they can mitigate the risk without you knowing about it.
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Then maybe they can mitigate the risk without you knowing about it.
What is that supposed to mean? This is about gaining a further understanding of reality; the universe
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They do, in fact all the time. You just don't hear about it because of stigma. See this NARCAP (civilian flight safety) report https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20 for a case where a FedEx flight crew documented an encounter with the commonly reported pulsating orb type anomaly. There is a video. Observed behavior: > The UAP/Light came from above and stopped/hovered near FL37, about the same altitude as the aircraf…
Here’s the thing that gets me. A 767 costs hundreds of millions of dollars and yet I’ve filmed better videos with a potato. Why is the pilot filming with his smartphone? Why does the plane not have a sophisticated high-quality purpose-built camera system that can record phenomena like this?
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Here’s the thing that gets me. A 767 costs hundreds of millions of dollars and yet I’ve filmed better videos with a potato. Why is the pilot filming with his smartphone? Why does the plane not have a sophisticated high-quality purpose-built camera system that can record phenomena like this?
Huh? Are you seriously asking why commercial airliners don’t have 4K GoPros to record UAP/UFOs?
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Aha! You’re the person I’ve been searching for. A person who has seen something that is incredible (literally) and has a hard time following up because of a complete absence of data/evidence to back up your claim. Going back to your experience, what tools do you wish we as a society had that would help us document your experience? Did you try to document your experience? What were the barriers you encountered? If you…
Can't tell if being sarcastic or not... But the vast majority of us carry an at least 12 megapixel camera in our pocket literally everywhere we go now...
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What do you want people to get out of those analyses? They quantify the incredible observations, but they don't explain how those observations could be possible, nor rule out other explanations.
At least in terms of the 3 navy video, I would argue that the data purports, with high confidence, that the craft did exhibit flight performance characteristics that we cannot explain with modern technology or physics. And these are just the three videos that got released. Many people with security clearances have come forward and said the AATIP database has hundreds videos (with the classified sensor data) of craft…
Fighter pilots at risk? If the military believed that they would already be fully engaged in solving the problem. In which case there is little for me or any other civilian to do.
And you say fighter pilots at risk but, and this will sound callous, an actual incident that caused a loss of aircraft would be more compelling. It does away with the may be at risk proposition. And, again, I suspect the military would be fully engaged in understanding the issue. Doubly so.
I guess I also believe that things leak. There isn't going to be a secret program that is so far advanced that it counters known physical laws.
It sounds as though you are certain that it is military in nature so no need to speculate as to whether it is extraterrestrial in nature.