Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

cnbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 348 posts

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#41

Post by freejazz »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #18
22SAS wrote: post #5

So, a LLM, trained extensively on StackOverflow and other data (possibly the plethora of LC solutions out there), is fed a bunch of LC questions and spits out the correct solutions? In other news, water is blue. It is one thing to train an AI on megatons of data, for questions which have solutions. The day ChatGPT can build a highly scalable system from scratch, or an ultra-low latency trading system that beats the c…

Don’t understand this take. If it was easy to make an LLM that quickly parsed all of StackOverflow and described new answers that most of the time worked in the timeframe of an interview, it would have been done by now. ChatGPT is clearly disruptive being the first useful chatbot in forever.

what does it being easy have to do with it?

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#44

Post by danaris »

mobilefriendly wrote: post #22
fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #3

Will humanity finally be liberated from memorization? Forcing school children to memorize and then regurgitate facts is barbaric, and so is using it as a measure in hiring.

Clearly you didn't learn the meaning of "barbaric". Memorization and mastery of vocabulary and multiplication factors are a base towards more advanced learning.

If you think that's all that's taught in a rote-memorization-and-regurgitation manner, then it's possible your experiences at school were wildly atypical...

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#45

Post by hacym »

SpeedilyDamage wrote: post #38
mensetmanusman wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t understand this take. If it was easy to make an LLM that quickly parsed all of StackOverflow and described new answers that most of the time worked in the timeframe of an interview, it would have been done by now. ChatGPT is clearly disruptive being the first useful chatbot in forever.

You don't understand the take that just because ChatGPT can pass a coding interview doesn't mean the coding interview is useless or that ChatGPT could actually do the job? What part of that take do you not understand? It's a really easy concept to grasp, and even if you don't agree with it, I would expect at least that a research scientist (according to your bio) would be able to grok the concepts almost immediately.…

I don’t think your militant attitude helps them understand any better.

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#46

Post by alephnerd »

klyrs wrote: post #29
ipnon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until ChatGPT can slack my PM, attend my sprint plannings, read my Jira tickets, and synthesize all of this into actionable tasks on my codebase, I think we have job security. To be clear, we are starting to see this capability on the horizon.

Your PM should be the first to be worried, honestly. I keep hearing people describing their job as "I just click around on Jira while I sit through meetings all day."

That's a bad PM then to be honest. I think ChatGPT will definetly commodify a lot of "bitch work" (pardon my french).

The PMs who are only writing tickets and not participating in actively building ACs or communicating cross functionally are screwed. But so are SWEs who are doing the bare minimum of work.

The kinds of SWEs and PMs who concentrate on stuff higher in the value chain (like system design, product market fit, messaging, etc) will continue to be in demand and in fact find it much easier to get their jobs done.

Honestly, I kind of appreciate this.

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#47

Post by lechacker »

22SAS wrote: post #5

So, a LLM, trained extensively on StackOverflow and other data (possibly the plethora of LC solutions out there), is fed a bunch of LC questions and spits out the correct solutions? In other news, water is blue. It is one thing to train an AI on megatons of data, for questions which have solutions. The day ChatGPT can build a highly scalable system from scratch, or an ultra-low latency trading system that beats the c…

Water isn't blue, it's transparent

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#48

Post by nothrowaways »

jeffbee wrote: post #7

That's odd because when I gave ChatGPT my icebreaker interview question that I used a lot at Google it fell right on its face. And this is a question I expect teenagers to ace in one minute.

Write it down here with the answers, and it will excel at it in next iteration.

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#49

Post by morelisp »

tbalsam wrote: post #16
22SAS wrote: post #5

So, a LLM, trained extensively on StackOverflow and other data (possibly the plethora of LC solutions out there), is fed a bunch of LC questions and spits out the correct solutions? In other news, water is blue. It is one thing to train an AI on megatons of data, for questions which have solutions. The day ChatGPT can build a highly scalable system from scratch, or an ultra-low latency trading system that beats the c…

If it helps, this likely is coming. I think we have a tendency to mentally move the goalposts when it comes to this kind of thing as a self-defense mechanism. Years ago this would have been a similar level of impossibility. Since all a codebase like that is is a kind of directed graph, then augmentations to the processing of the network to allow for the simultaneous parsing of and generation of this kind of code may…

Translating an idiomatic structured loop into assembly used to be an "L3" question (honestly, probably higher), yet compilers could do it with substantially fewer resources than and decades before any of these LLMs.

While I wouldn't dare offer particular public prognostications about the effect transformer codegens will have on the industry, especially once filtered through a profit motive - the specific technical skill a programmer is called upon to learn at various points in their career has shifted wildly throughout the industry's history, yet the actual job has at best inflected a few times and never changed very dramatically since probably the 60s.

Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

#50

Post by nerdchum »

klyrs wrote: post #29
ipnon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until ChatGPT can slack my PM, attend my sprint plannings, read my Jira tickets, and synthesize all of this into actionable tasks on my codebase, I think we have job security. To be clear, we are starting to see this capability on the horizon.

Your PM should be the first to be worried, honestly. I keep hearing people describing their job as "I just click around on Jira while I sit through meetings all day."

I think this will probably be a boon to the project manager. It will be another tool and their toolbox along with real developers that they can assign lower complexity tasks too. at least it's till it's capable of doing high complexity stuff.
Post reply on HN