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Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

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Re: Google testing ChatGPT-like chatbot 'Apprentice Bard' with employees

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Post by AussieWog93 »

6c737133 wrote: post #2

why does chatGPT passing tests or interviews continue to make headlines? all they're proving is that tests, and interviews, are bullshit constructs that merely attempt to evaluate someone's ability to retain and regurgitate information

You're not wrong, but until you actually play with ChatGPT yourself, you just don't understand how _dumb_ it is.

All people see is the cheating, and possibly this scary new AI that's going to get smarter than humans in a short period of time.

I suspect the best way to educate people on both the powers and limits of the technology is to get them to sit down for 15 minutes with it.

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Post by kizer »

I don't think the world is ready for the AI tech that will emerge over the next few years. I don't even know how teachers deal with ChatGPT. I'm not sure many understand its scope and abilities -- in every subject.

I'm glad I got an education before the current AI era. I mean, instructors will have to mandate that students write papers etc. in class or in a supervised environment only now, right?

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Post by fdgsdfogijq »

6c737133 wrote: post #2

why does chatGPT passing tests or interviews continue to make headlines? all they're proving is that tests, and interviews, are bullshit constructs that merely attempt to evaluate someone's ability to retain and regurgitate information

The ability to retrieve and then synthesize the retrieved information into an answer tailored to the question is completely new. The applications of this go far beyond passing an interview, its a fundamental capability of humans that gets used everyday at work

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Post by tbalsam »

22SAS wrote: post #5

So, a LLM, trained extensively on StackOverflow and other data (possibly the plethora of LC solutions out there), is fed a bunch of LC questions and spits out the correct solutions? In other news, water is blue. It is one thing to train an AI on megatons of data, for questions which have solutions. The day ChatGPT can build a highly scalable system from scratch, or an ultra-low latency trading system that beats the c…

If it helps, this likely is coming. I think we have a tendency to mentally move the goalposts when it comes to this kind of thing as a self-defense mechanism. Years ago this would have been a similar level of impossibility.

Since all a codebase like that is is a kind of directed graph, then augmentations to the processing of the network to allow for the simultaneous parsing of and generation of this kind of code may not be as far off as you thinking.

I say this as an ML researcher of coming up and around the bend towards 6 years of experience in the heavily technical side of the field. Strong negative skepticism is an easy way to bring confidence and the appearance of knowledge, but it also can have the downfall of what has happened in certain past technological revolutions -- and the threat is very much real here (in contrast to the group that believes you can get AGI from simply scaling LLMs, I think that is very silly indeed).

Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate it and the discussion it generated and appreciate you posting it. Replying to it was fun, thank you.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

22SAS wrote: post #5

So, a LLM, trained extensively on StackOverflow and other data (possibly the plethora of LC solutions out there), is fed a bunch of LC questions and spits out the correct solutions? In other news, water is blue. It is one thing to train an AI on megatons of data, for questions which have solutions. The day ChatGPT can build a highly scalable system from scratch, or an ultra-low latency trading system that beats the c…

Don’t understand this take.

If it was easy to make an LLM that quickly parsed all of StackOverflow and described new answers that most of the time worked in the timeframe of an interview, it would have been done by now.

ChatGPT is clearly disruptive being the first useful chatbot in forever.

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Post by tester756 »

fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #3

Will humanity finally be liberated from memorization? Forcing school children to memorize and then regurgitate facts is barbaric, and so is using it as a measure in hiring.

I've always struggled to understand this perspective

There's difference between being proficient and being able to Google stuff and unfortunately proficiency is desired.

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Post by ipnon »

22SAS wrote: post #5

So, a LLM, trained extensively on StackOverflow and other data (possibly the plethora of LC solutions out there), is fed a bunch of LC questions and spits out the correct solutions? In other news, water is blue. It is one thing to train an AI on megatons of data, for questions which have solutions. The day ChatGPT can build a highly scalable system from scratch, or an ultra-low latency trading system that beats the c…

Until ChatGPT can slack my PM, attend my sprint plannings, read my Jira tickets, and synthesize all of this into actionable tasks on my codebase, I think we have job security. To be clear, we are starting to see this capability on the horizon.
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