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The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I never understood the attraction. But then again I didn't understand what all the fuss was about over the Prodigy and "Firestarter" either. Or Underworld after they moved from rock to dance. All seemed vastly overrated to me. There is something I must be missing.

>Both seemed vastly overrated to me. There is something I must be missing. Drugs, probably. Firestarter is an amazing track when it comes on at 3am and you've been dancing for hours. In the cold light of day, not so much. EDM of that era was very much designed to be experienced with MDMA and the KLF in particular really needed a stadium full of people in a similar state to fully appreciate them. All the extra Discord…

all hail discordia.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

> I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do now.

Not sure if this helps you, but the money supply changes all the time. The government creates and destroys money as needed and nobody ever says boo. What these folks did made all the other money in circulation worth slightly more, so nothing was actually lost in the way that would have been had they, say, bought houses and burned them down.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I always thought it was pretty hilarious how they managed to get Tammy Wynette to sing a song about the Illuminatus! Trilogy

I loved it then; I love it now. And clearly Tammy had a blast: https://ew.com/article/1992/02/07/tammy-wynette-and-klf/

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

honestly, if you do a stunt outrageous enough, that is inevitably going to be the main thing people remember about you. this might be the most serious context in which i have ever recommended reading the "angus the bridge builder" joke, but it's very relevant: https://jokes.one/joke/angus-the

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

> I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do now. Not sure if this helps you, but the money supply changes all the time. The government creates and destroys money as needed and nobody ever says boo. What these folks did made all the other money in circulation worth slightly more, so nothing was actually lost in the way that would have been had they, say, bought houses and burned them down.

I appreciate the kind words. My anger at their actions comes from how coddled from reality they had to be to make such a choice. The levers of monetary supply and demand, of course, 'make' and 'destroy' much larger sums on a daily basis. But those aren't liquid values under control of a single person, either. Money that is, is much more salient, and more valuable. And they just pissed it away.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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Bill Drummond is the most wonderful of tricksters, my favorite performance artist of all-time

Like the Panther Moderns in Neuromancer, he has elevated culture jamming and subversion to a literal art.

Who else could make some of the best electronic music of the post-Acid house era, as well as a full guide of the formula they used for the lowest effort radio hit imaginable ((Doctorin the TARDIS")

Embrace the contradictions.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

Deeply selfish? There are literally millions and millions of extremely wealthy people who would spend that amount doing nothing, buying a yacht, their 20th property, or do actual terrible things. I don’t resent them for burning their money. They could have bought toys, instead they made a statement. We live in a world where many of us (myself included) have to live with the pain of not having enough. I’m reminded of…

> instead they made a statement

What does that mean? I mean really mean?

Follow-up question: did they achieve anything .. other than (even more) notoriety?

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do now. Not sure if this helps you, but the money supply changes all the time. The government creates and destroys money as needed and nobody ever says boo. What these folks did made all the other money in circulation worth slightly more, so nothing was actually lost in the way that would have been had they, say, bought houses and burned them down.

I appreciate the kind words. My anger at their actions comes from how coddled from reality they had to be to make such a choice. The levers of monetary supply and demand, of course, 'make' and 'destroy' much larger sums on a daily basis. But those aren't liquid values under control of a single person, either. Money that is, is much more salient, and more valuable. And they just pissed it away.

Did they piss it away though? That single statement was so powerful it's still causing emotional arguments about it 20 years later. Can you say that about other things people spent £1m on in 1994?

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

It is fine for art to be selfish and to be painful. Their act was one of the things that helped me understand that art is more than just being pretty and hard to craft.

I think their bad reputation and fade into obscurity is a consequence of being so dismissive and even offensive to anyone (especially media, of course) who wanted to make celebrity shows of them. It's great for them to perform their art, and it's great (or at least natural) for media to decide they don't bring value to them.

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