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The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

Deeply selfish? There are literally millions and millions of extremely wealthy people who would spend that amount doing nothing, buying a yacht, their 20th property, or do actual terrible things.

I don’t resent them for burning their money. They could have bought toys, instead they made a statement.

We live in a world where many of us (myself included) have to live with the pain of not having enough. I’m reminded of that every day. I wonder why we live in such a world. Do you think it has anything to do with why they burned a million quid?

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

The true economic loss is whatever it cost the Bank of England to print another million pounds.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

#23
post #20

It's been pointed out that for the state banking authority the fire did absolutely nothing. Firstly, it's rounding error noise to the economy. Secondly, even ephemeral evidence of which notes got destroyed in some circumstances would legitimate taking a bundle off the shelf and giving it to them. Money is strange. For the central bank, it exists when they say it does and not when ink hits paper at the printery. Econo…

Wouldn't it have slightly raised the value of everybody else's money?

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #20

It's been pointed out that for the state banking authority the fire did absolutely nothing. Firstly, it's rounding error noise to the economy. Secondly, even ephemeral evidence of which notes got destroyed in some circumstances would legitimate taking a bundle off the shelf and giving it to them. Money is strange. For the central bank, it exists when they say it does and not when ink hits paper at the printery. Econo…

Wouldn't it have slightly raised the value of everybody else's money?

If you subscribe to the right economic theory, then yes?

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

Funny, I actually did not know about the money burning until a couple of years ago. Admittedly I also did not know about many other things they did, but still remembered them for a few of them.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

I see where you're coming from, but isn't the point just the opposite? People aren't starving because of lack of money, they're starving because richer people decided that another million is worth letting people starve for. If the people who already have millions decided, like the KLF, that another million isn't worth that much, maybe they would not let it dictate how they treat other people.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

Wonder showzen was inspired by this stunt and took their episode budget of ~$100k and paid a homeless person $10k to throw another $10k out of a helicopter onto the statue of liberty. It didn’t work out in the end but still was a hell of a tribute in theory. See https://www.brooklynvegan.com/wonder-showzen-creators-talk-t...

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

Deeply selfish? There are literally millions and millions of extremely wealthy people who would spend that amount doing nothing, buying a yacht, their 20th property, or do actual terrible things. I don’t resent them for burning their money. They could have bought toys, instead they made a statement. We live in a world where many of us (myself included) have to live with the pain of not having enough. I’m reminded of…

> Do you think it has anything to do with why they burned a million quid?

Absolutely not. It was all tied up with their distaste for the art industry, not inequality. The burning was the last attempt to create art with the money (after Nailed to the Wall, the failed Money: A Major Body of Cash exhibition, and the K Foundation art award).

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

I’d be interested to hear your opinion after reading the book, he covered a lot of what you mention. The burning is covered, but then it goes back and goes over everything leading up to that to frame it and put the act in context, and IIRC talks a bit about things after.
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