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Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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I disagree here. If you have a functional environment you can have a team meeting, clarify everything there openly and have 1:1 once you need them due to privacy. Regular 1:1 create the risk of micromanaging people and foster secrecy. It is good for developing people, but once they are developed what purpose do they have. Maybe this is a culture thing (German here ... we fight in public ;)). My experience is: the lay…

Sounds cultural maybe? In the US, 1 to 1's aren't about fighting, they are about developing, and there is an attitude here of never stopping developing, so there is no "once they are developed" phase.

It's definitely cultural but I think you are overstating things a bit. That is commonly how 1:1s are approached in the US but still many places will be different.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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I've been dealing with the "you're the best....sorry no raise" for a while, you just have to decide if it's worth staying? What I don't deal with is management trying to replace me, like they are trying to replace you. I suggest looking for something new, yo seemed to have hit a brick wall at your company and it really doesn't matter who's at fault or the reason, it's just time to go.

Remember: it's CHEAP to tell someone they are the best but not pay them more. If it keeps you around....

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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In this case it has nothing to do with the OPs performance and everything to do with their own poor leadership being reflected back to them.

Note the verbiage: he was told he was "the best engineer". That might well be true even though nobody could stand him as a person . Considering how nobody is lifting a finger to help him, I reckon nobody else particularly enjoyed having him around, but couldn't get rid of him because of their reliance on his technical prowess.

Yeah I think this is probably true. Rightly or wrongly they don't see him as a team player, but were required to keep him on because of his technical prowess.

It sounds like they're managing him out and he'll soon be on a PIP.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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Stay there, do nothing, take the paycheck and work on yourself: - brush up on your skills - start / contribute to a few projects, create a portfolio (I don't know what's your work experience) - start applying for jobs You owe nothing to that company, at the end of the day you're just one name in someone's Excel file, the whole "family at work" trend is something awful that should not have been born, so you better get…

Yes, this. Learn a few new things, then start looking for a remote job on the first company's dime. When you get the new job, prioritize the new job until the old job decides to fire you. But, not before soaking up some sick and vacation time while increasing your savings.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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This is good advice in general but the big give away with this issue is the “hired a friend” part. Unfortunately this person has been relegated to the “out” group and no logical business practices will change that. Your boss/manager hired their friend and unless you go over their head and can call this behavior out and demonstrate that this is clearly nepotism then you’re out of luck. Get your your resume together, s…

Bringing on a friend, telling them to learn everything the smartest and best engineer on the team knows, and them succeeding at it, honestly sounds like some dream situation. I wish I could just magically have people become a copy of the best engineer on my team When people talk about nepotism its usually how the underperforming person with personal ties to a manager isn't getting fired, or getting promoted, despite…

> I wish I could just magically have people become a copy of the best engineer on my team

Same observation here.

With every story, we're only getting the point of view of the author. Some things don't add up here, so I'd love to get some clarifications.

> This is top 5 tech companies in Canada.

That's vague. What do you mean by "top tech company"? Largest by earnings? Head-count? In my mind, a bank that hires programmers might do tech but isn't a tech company proper. Unlike an org like Google where engineering is at the core of the company.

> I was told that you are the best engineer in the whole organization. For these years, I have not got a single dollar raise or promotion. My salary has been the same from the day I joined in 2019.

What's the size of the whole organization? Your team? Division? Company? Being the best of an underperforming team is very different than being the best company-wide at a top firm.

Salary-wise, being told you are the "best of the best" three years in a row (in probably the hottest engineering market since the 90's, at least here in the Valley) and not getting any form of promotions or raise is a pretty big red-flag. All the top tech companies will refresh comp on a yearly basis because they know that their competitors will be ready to poach their best performers if they don't. To me that raises a red flag about your story. Either there's something you aren't telling us about the company or your performance...

Now, this is an anonymous post so there's literally no downside for anyone, but was the total comp. package like? Numbers will give us a clearer picture than vague descriptions to be honest.

> My manager told me to train this engineer with same skill-set like you. I am a nice person so I brought this engineer up to speed. From the time this engineer has learnt everything that I have known, my manager has stopped talking to me. My 1:1 meetings has not happened for last few months. I am getting cold shoulder treatment from everyone else on team. This engineer who I taught has been assigned lead role and giving me directions for last few months.

And it only took a little time to train him off, despite your assessment that you are the "top performer"? That's weird again. I don't think anyone could get hired and come up to speed with, say John Carmack or Linus Torvald. What’s the other engineer’s experience?

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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Definitely time to go. As to whether it's the standard Canadian culture, I'd say from personal experience and what I've seen with friends/family it is more common in the crown corps and tech oligopolies (i.e., Bell, Telus). So when you say Top 5, I'm not surprised the manager did this and got away with it. That, and I know I'll be accused of Québec bashing, but when a company in Montreal is franco-dominated, there is…

> As to whether it's the standard Canadian culture, I'd say from personal experience and what I've seen with friends/family it is more common in the crown corps and tech oligopolies (i.e., Bell, Telus). So when you say Top 5, I'm not surprised the manager did this and got away with it.

I'm not sure I would label a state company or a telecom operator a "top" tech company. At least, here in the Valley it wouldn't get that label.

> That, and I know I'll be accused of Québec bashing, but when a company in Montreal is franco-dominated, there is a tendency to be, let's call it nepotistic, so that a member of the "family" calls the shots for the "outsiders", regardless of ability, understanding or basic competence. It's not always been my experience and the top companies don't do it but, it definitely happens more than it should.

We acquired a small company in Montreal a few years ago, and it's something the founders touched-on: they placed much a larger emphasis on French language skills when hiring than we initially assumed they would. In retrospect, the decision made sense; the founders and early employees were all native French speakers, so all the internal communications were in French. Ultimately it didn't matter in the long run: most of the key employees relocated to the Bay Area.

Post-acquisition we had to let go an employee for a weird attitude problem regarding language. One of the frequent arguments he had with everyone was that he insisted he didn't need to learn French to live in Montreal and was somehow hostile to the language. I honestly questioned why he immigrated there in the first place when there's 50 states and 9 other provinces he could go to and live exclusively in English? I get he probably couldn't pass the higher bar for US immigration but that still leaves 2/3rd of Canada to go to.

> Especially those doing work for the provincial government or directly with schools/healthcare facilities.

My understanding is that these contracts often have a clause that deliverables must be shipped in French. Especially for stuff that's customer-facing (like education or healthcare!).

Someone told me that, when dealing with the federal government for contracts, speaking French helps a lot. Since it's so much harder to offshore positions where French is required, you almost always get to speak with a real government employee and not a contractor. On a project he worked on only the manager 2 levels up was an actual government employee, because it was legally required for the contact point with contractors to be bilingual. Needless to say, he used his high school French to bypass two levels of IST time zoned "Project Solution Architect" and "Senior Project Analysts"...

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