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Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by prmoustache »

watwut wrote: post #165
TeMPOraL wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, if my memory is in any way accurate, 10 y.o. is about the age I stopped discussing a class of topics with my parent, after one too many times of me wanting to share something important and feeling ignored. My parents lost a window into a chunk of my life then, and honestly, never really regained to this day. It sounds stupid even to me now, but it's really not easy to fix such things at the age of 30+. Those em…

I also kinda feel like that something like that might be normal part of growing up. I dont mean the deep emotional wound you talk about, but the fact that the kid has some own internal life the parent does not have access to. As in, even absent emotional wounds, a kid not reporting every thing schoolmates do, a kid having fantasies and interests the kid keeps for itself might just be part of growing up into adult. It…

Yes that is perfectly normal part of going through pre-adolescence and adolescence. Kids natually try to become/feel more independent and get advices and opinions from other sources.

As a parent you have to accept that from 12y old you will know very little of your kids thoughts and dirty secrets.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by prawn »

phillc73 wrote: post #69
Chris2048 wrote: post #52

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Your 8-year old ski races on weekends?

Yes. We live in Austria and it's just what kids do. In Australia, they learn to swim at a very young age, in Austria it's skiing. He's not the only one racing under-10s class! There's another comment here taking the piss (with the yachting comment), and I too used to have certain pre-conceived ideas about skiing. Sure, if you go to St. Anton and Kitzbuehel, there's a certain vibe. However, at my local slopes it's com…

Swimming lessons in Australia are very common. General pool safety/ability but also beach/surf confidence. In summer, there are beach swimming programs that are very well attended. Our 4-10 yos did a week-long beach program last month, learning how to deal with waves, signal for help, swim to safety while clothed, etc. Think it was the second or third year running for the older two, who are quite competent in waves and had done multiple years of pool swimming lessons.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by GuB-42 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #3

Nope, nope nope. My kid is 10 and still doesn't know a single Youtuber by name and doesn't really watch Youtube. We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content. Netflix has a pretty good age limiter and well produced TV-shows. Disney+ has Bluey and a ton of other content. AppleTV+ has a few good ones too, but not as much as the two big ones. Paying the few coins fo…

> We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content.

Essentially like kids TV in the 80-90s. A lot of shows were made explicitly to sell toys, with Transformers being one of the best known. I don't know if it is still the case now.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by prmoustache »

scotty79 wrote: post #180
elteto wrote: post #156

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You never had a beer at a restaurant?

No. I find the concept of drinking beer with a meal disgusting on multiple levels. As a kid I hated when adults were drinking alcohol in my presence. They got even louder and dumber than usual after drinking.

Drinking alcohol doesn't necessarily mean you will go louder and dumber. You know, like youtube, there are limits.

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Post by watwut »

rTX5CMRXIfFG wrote: post #119
shawabawa3 wrote: post #99

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> despite not having a good mechanistic explanation for why YT is OK even at small dosages Do you have an explanation for YT is NOT ok even at small dosages?

Did we miss out on all of the HN articles and studies about how socmed consumption negatively impacts people’s levels of happiness, self-esteem, and ability to focus, and have we no experience of it?

The actual studies are way more nuanced then that. It is actually funny to compare what actual studies, whether sociological or psychological say and what gets written on HN.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by bbor »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #59

As a parent, screen time vs no screen time is a fine line that we have to continually renegotiate. Screens can be great, there is so much good information out there that can enrich our lives. I wouldn't go the "no screens ever" route because that's just being a luddite, robbing them of the change to experience, and acquire expertise in, the digital world that they will be interacting with for the rest of their lives.…

I’d argue that our current algorithms can absolutely find the right stuff for your child, its just not in their financial interest to do so. Sad stuff from capitalism, as always.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by i67vw3 »

scotty79 wrote: post #129
i67vw3 wrote: post #55

Two of my sisters have in total 3 kids (4 to 6 years old) and all three of them need to watch youtube videos while eating. Just few days back, my sister had a 'gathering' to announce her 2nd child (making it total 4 kids combined) and the 3rd kid needed to watch few youtube videos (usually they are of other kids playing or doing some stuff) to eat his dinner, which I found quite odd. This thing is not only related to…

Eating is immensly boring and I hated it as a kid. I wish I had something to distract myself from the boredom of eating. Despite not having anything like that as a child I now, at 43, eat all my meals in front of a computer while gaming or watching or reading something.

When I was a kid, I too ate in front of TV even if parents/elders told to eat on table, and not in front of a screen.

It is what kids will do.

And I myself have seen this behaviour, presently for kids upto the age of 10 years old (born around 2010), but the behaviour of newer kids born 3-4 years back is quite weird/concerning to me.

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Post by prmoustache »

thrown_43 wrote: post #9
moomoo11 wrote: post #6

Why not just take ur kids on a hike on the weekend or read some books? Both are free (parks and libraries) and better than burning your kid’s eyeballs. Update: nobody wants to put in effort. No surprise there, poor kids :(

Because I can't fit a 3 hour hike in the car ride to school.

Well first nobody with a sane mind would take a car for that. I am walking to school with my kids.

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Post by jackvalentine »

watwut wrote: post #192
jackvalentine wrote: post #166

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I take your point, but isn’t it possible that every generation was right because they feared that one day we’d go too far and weren’t sure if we were at that point yet? And one day, we may go too far. We might have already.

I think that some complains about new generations are valid others are not. And as I had own kids I realized that when parents or teachers see an issue, they talk about, comment on it and then try to fix the issue. So sometimes, the observation is actually correct, but it makes adults to work on fixing it and sometimes they succeed. Some generations are more violent then others, some generations have more substance a…

I’m sorry I don’t understand how your comment relates to the topic of different generations judging ‘newer’ technology to be somehow more dangerous.

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Post by spicyusername »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #59

As a parent, screen time vs no screen time is a fine line that we have to continually renegotiate. Screens can be great, there is so much good information out there that can enrich our lives. I wouldn't go the "no screens ever" route because that's just being a luddite, robbing them of the change to experience, and acquire expertise in, the digital world that they will be interacting with for the rest of their lives.…

Very well said, can't agree more!
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