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Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
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Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure you know exactly what the poster meant ...
> I'm pretty sure you know exactly what the poster meant ... No, I don't. It obviously is trying to say something about accessibility and SpaceX, but I don't see how the sense of accessbility being discussed in the thread even applies to SpaceX, much less what claim is being made.
Agree. It's quite the jump going from a user-centric website to a space launch company that is used by corporations and governments. Like, okay, I guess SpaceX is extremely accessible compared to other options in the space industry, but why would that have any bearing on how accessible the Twitter website is for you and me day-to-day?
Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
If charging for API usage amounts to developer alienation, then why is Apple the most successful business in the world? Frankly, I don't think Musk much cares for the developers. From a business perspective, he might be right here - developers aren't the ones watching ads or paying for microtransactions, users are. The developers, at his scale, are a liability. Restricting their capabilities and profiting from their…
If the App Store had been free for 15 years and then Apple said "if you don't pay us $100 a year in one week, we'll delete your app" then you can bet that Tim Cook would be seeking new opportunities _within hours_. There's a big difference between "this has always cost something" and "this is going from free to paid with _one week's notice_".
I don't see how third party developers are additive to Twitter in the same way they're additive to Apple at all. If that's true at all, why would Twitter provide services for free? Why would Apple charge at all? (Especially from the beginning).
It's a hard comparison because the value of the Apple ecosystem is so obvious and mutual. Twitter is junk on both sides; unless as a third party dev you just happened to find value in it, in which case you should pay for it.
I understand this is hurting peoples feelings, but it makes complete sense to me from all angles.
Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#104Twitter is going into code Red when news organizations are going to start charging Twitter for use of their site... Or simply blocking them.
I don’t think that’s likely. News orgs dependent on people seeing ads, so they benefit from their story going viral on twitter more than I think twitter benefits from people posting them. At the other end you have the conservative news channels that aggressively push bigot nonsense, and short as hell wouldn’t drop the opportunity to continue twitters conversion to parler.
What does going viral on Twitter even mean when no one is using Twitter anymore. That other bots, that don't use the bots API, find your used hashtags interesting?
Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#105Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#106Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#107Okay, so this one is nearly making me buy into those conspiracy theories that Musk is deliberately breaking Twitter because 4d chess (only nearly; this is incompetence rather than anything else). There's an argument to be had whether it makes sense for Twitter to have a free API tier. I personally think that it's obvious it should: - A lot of Twitter content/engagement is created by bots, and people quote-tweeting sa…
Personally, I like the theory that he's planning to discharge all of the debts he's run up in one fell swoop with a bankruptcy filing. It will be sad, but not unexpected if the courts let him get away with it. I wish I could buy a house with a mortgage in the house's name, make the house declare bankruptcy, and then keep ownership of it. Replace "house" with "Twitter", and that's the gambit. Although, the amount of d…
He won't retain ownership of it. The banks are already talking about how they'll run Twitter, since they expected him to default on the $300m interest payment the other day.
Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
But there is no need for Twitter to allow you to do that for free just because. From a pure business perspective it's either Twitter dies or Elon pays the bills.
From a business perspective, you don't want to alienate developers who work to build your ecosystem. A more sane way to do this would have been with a public tweet explaining why they were doing it (ad revenue), a 3 month lead time, and an API for helping apps get users to "upgrade" their account.
> From a business perspective, you don't want to alienate developers who work to build your ecosystem.
This does not follow, in Twitter's case. If Twitter's API made them money, they wouldn't have shut it down, but it's the exact opposite, it costs them money while providing no monetary benefit. So in this case, from the business perspective, it is correct to start charging for it.
Now they could spend 3 months but with debt service payments of a billion dollars a year, I highly doubt that they have the patience to wait that long.
Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm pretty sure you know exactly what the poster meant ... No, I don't. It obviously is trying to say something about accessibility and SpaceX, but I don't see how the sense of accessbility being discussed in the thread even applies to SpaceX, much less what claim is being made.
Agree. It's quite the jump going from a user-centric website to a space launch company that is used by corporations and governments. Like, okay, I guess SpaceX is extremely accessible compared to other options in the space industry, but why would that have any bearing on how accessible the Twitter website is for you and me day-to-day?
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Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
If charging for API usage amounts to developer alienation, then why is Apple the most successful business in the world? Frankly, I don't think Musk much cares for the developers. From a business perspective, he might be right here - developers aren't the ones watching ads or paying for microtransactions, users are. The developers, at his scale, are a liability. Restricting their capabilities and profiting from their…
You don't need to pay to use Xcode, or to run apps on your own devices. If you publish to the app store I think there is a $99/year fee or something to have your app signed, plus they take 30% of your revenue. You don't absolutely need to have your code signed, I can give apps to my friends, they just get a warning about it not being signed and potentially unsafe when it's first installed.
You need to buy a Mac to even develop these apps...