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Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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I'm still surprised that anyone expected the acquisition of Twitter by a billionaire with a long demonstrated lack of empathy, social grace or self awareness would go at all well.

He started a fire in a movie theater and now wants to lock the doors and raise the price on whatever water and extinguishers are on hand.

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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- announced at 10pm - basically a week to decide what to do with your dev project - No information to help you make that decision This seems like more management by manchild. I strongly suspect that Musk realized his promises of cutting down bots etc. were failing and that they either couldn't or wouldn't develop abuse detection, so he's decided to solve the problem by making it cost money, with the (perhaps desired)…

I don't think that's too related to cutting down bots. It's about making money from their dataset, which is valid. Why do people think they can hammer an API without paying?

_Their_ dataset? The data comes from the users!

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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post #9

My guess is that (in addition to bot things) this is aimed at taking down e.g. Mastodon crosspost.

The ability to mirror twitter accounts to mastodon will work just fine even without the api. I'm not sure there's too many people posting from mastodon to twitter.

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC the twitter website goes to great lengths to mangle itself to prevent ad blockers presumably. Of course this used to have the side effect of breaking significant swathes of basic browser UX, especially in areas of accessibility. I assume they’re better now than they once were, but given musk’s historical behavior I assume he won’t consider breaking something like accessibility to be bad or problematic.

> musk’s historical behavior I assume he won’t consider breaking something like accessibility to be bad or problematic. I don't see why would he spend more to make website less accessible. Not fixing bugs - yes, just about everyone does so. But breaking it intentionally costs money. Tesla's aren't THE most accessible (by cost) EV out there, but SpaceX def is.

Accessibility is not a by cost thing, and you aren't paying to break accessibility, you're paying to break scraping and maintaining accessibility when doing so costs money. It also requires having engineers working to keep the site accessible, but musk fired them.

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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Probably a combination of: Users flagging the post Domain-based downweight (dang has mentioned it exists for Wikipedia for example, no idea if it’s automated or manual) Posts with bad comments:upvote ratio get downweighted (IIRC dang calls them overheated discursions?) And FWIW it’s on the front page now [EDIT] no it’s not. I was on the new page not front haha. Probably people sick of hearing about Twitter and flaggi…

I didn’t think about it until you mentioned it but really, why would the hacker type be interesting in all the happenings of $MEGACORP? Literally any small blurb about someone’s hobby would be more interesting. It would be nice to be able to personally filter by topic/keyword.

people just love controversy, even those who say they don't. Look at the many answers and engagement you can have comparing and talking about JS frameworks. Musk and apple is the same, makes a great ammount of engagement.

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a business perspective, you don't want to alienate developers who work to build your ecosystem. A more sane way to do this would have been with a public tweet explaining why they were doing it (ad revenue), a 3 month lead time, and an API for helping apps get users to "upgrade" their account.

If charging for API usage amounts to developer alienation, then why is Apple the most successful business in the world? Frankly, I don't think Musk much cares for the developers. From a business perspective, he might be right here - developers aren't the ones watching ads or paying for microtransactions, users are. The developers, at his scale, are a liability. Restricting their capabilities and profiting from their…

You don't need to pay to use Xcode, or to run apps on your own devices. If you publish to the app store I think there is a $99/year fee or something to have your app signed, plus they take 30% of your revenue.

You don't absolutely need to have your code signed, I can give apps to my friends, they just get a warning about it not being signed and potentially unsafe when it's first installed.

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

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post #76

A huge concern that no one seems to be mentioning is that pretty much all academic data sets that used the Twitter API were required by the TOS to only be released publicly with the tweet ids, not the content of the tweet. Some of these have hundreds of thousands of tweets, and the only way to check the work of the researchers, or to build on it, is to use the api to reseed everything yourself. With this new policy t…

feel free to get in touch

How? I am not a full-fledged network scientist, but I know a whole lot of academics in this space and am good enough to swap tips/find minor math errors. I know quite a lot of people staring down the exact problem you describe.

Re: Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API

#90
post #84

Honestly the amount of money hedge funds and high frequency traders make from twitter is insane. API could be profitable for huge amounts!

Again, they already have an enterprise tier for business intelligence/market research, and have had for years. This is going to crush the providers of small bots, utilities, social science researchers etc, which are generally free or courtesy services.

Right now it looks as if they're proposing to start the pricing at $149/month which allows up to 100 search requests a month, going rapidly into the thousands for any sort of volume.

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