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Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to have clicked on an ad to have been influenced by one.

Yes, but CTR and conversion metrics still matter to ad buyers. It's much more difficult to measure the influence on my subconscious and attribute that.

Is it though? Television ads worked for years without any direct feedback. I assume a company can just look at before and after revenue…

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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The fact that the ad model has worked so well is always a nice reminder of how much of a bubble I live in. Personally I have never intentionally clicked on a Google/YouTube/etc ad. Never. I wonder if the general population has been getting more tech-savvy and skeptical of ads over time, but this change takes a very long time to play out. I sometimes see my dad clicking on ads because he doesn't understand the mechani…

Idk, but the drop in revenue is due to companies (eg coca-cola), no longer wanting to pay alphabet to have their ads displayed on alphabet's platforms, not so much as a drop in the amount of people clicking ads. (I say no longer wanting, there's still companies wanting obviously, demand for a spot on the platform is just lower). And it's mostly just the effects of monetary tightening, and companies trying to prepare for tight times.

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

#14

The fact that the ad model has worked so well is always a nice reminder of how much of a bubble I live in. Personally I have never intentionally clicked on a Google/YouTube/etc ad. Never. I wonder if the general population has been getting more tech-savvy and skeptical of ads over time, but this change takes a very long time to play out. I sometimes see my dad clicking on ads because he doesn't understand the mechani…

YouTube ads have gotten vey scummy too. A lot of get rich or get fit ads though I just listen to music or lectures there. And it seems common for others and now people have learned to avoid YouTube ads.

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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The fact that the ad model has worked so well is always a nice reminder of how much of a bubble I live in. Personally I have never intentionally clicked on a Google/YouTube/etc ad. Never. I wonder if the general population has been getting more tech-savvy and skeptical of ads over time, but this change takes a very long time to play out. I sometimes see my dad clicking on ads because he doesn't understand the mechani…

I'm clicking somewhat often on youtube ads, because there's no way to escape them without the content blocker, so you have to watch the ad anyway. So if I have to wait anyway until the ad ends, I just waste aditional click. But I never buy anything nor have any interest in the advertised product. I do this mainly for 2 reasons:

- waste the budget of annoying/scam ads in hope that in the future I'll see less of those

- support the content creator

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to have clicked on an ad to have been influenced by one.

Yes, but CTR and conversion metrics still matter to ad buyers. It's much more difficult to measure the influence on my subconscious and attribute that.

I think that there is some weird effect in the ad business where this isn't the case. Look at sponsorships or untargeted ads; Red Bull may sponsor someone jumping out of a balloon at the edge of space, but it's probably hard to convert that investment to a number of extra cans of energy drink sold. I see a lot of video ads like that in the same way. Everyone watching Overwatch League is just there idling for in-game rewards for watch time and probably have no idea who the sponsors are. And, all these children inflating YouTube view counts because the thumbnail has a weird face they can't resist clicking, aren't buying razor blade subscriptions or workstation monitoring systems that the video sponsors are advertising. (Hi Linus.)

I could never figure out if advertisers don't know what's going on, or they merely don't want to know. I get the feeling that companies value brand perception so heavily they don't know they're getting ripped off by the distribution networks. Or, individual ad executives just want people to talk about their ad at the water cooler, so don't purchase ads to most efficiently use their employer's marketing budget, but rather maximize impressions to inflate their personal brand. Like I said, I don't know; maybe everyone knows about all of these things and they think untracked ad impressions are worth what they're paying. It's a mystery to me, but I'm somewhat surprised the traditional ad industry is alive and well.

(The really insidious new form of advertising are paid endorsements and rigged reviews. If you search for "best X 2023", 100% of the results are ads presented as research. Truly evil and ruined ... everything.)

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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post #15

The fact that the ad model has worked so well is always a nice reminder of how much of a bubble I live in. Personally I have never intentionally clicked on a Google/YouTube/etc ad. Never. I wonder if the general population has been getting more tech-savvy and skeptical of ads over time, but this change takes a very long time to play out. I sometimes see my dad clicking on ads because he doesn't understand the mechani…

I'm clicking somewhat often on youtube ads, because there's no way to escape them without the content blocker, so you have to watch the ad anyway. So if I have to wait anyway until the ad ends, I just waste aditional click. But I never buy anything nor have any interest in the advertised product. I do this mainly for 2 reasons: - waste the budget of annoying/scam ads in hope that in the future I'll see less of those…

Their model likely detected you as an outlier and might disregard your clicks

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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What is the chance that adtech is all a house of cards? Meaning that all of the "precision targeting" for segmenting married men over 30 who speak German and English while having house cats doesn't work at all? For a while, I was getting ads on Instagram in Spanish, and I don't speak Spanish.

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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The fact that the ad model has worked so well is always a nice reminder of how much of a bubble I live in. Personally I have never intentionally clicked on a Google/YouTube/etc ad. Never. I wonder if the general population has been getting more tech-savvy and skeptical of ads over time, but this change takes a very long time to play out. I sometimes see my dad clicking on ads because he doesn't understand the mechani…

YouTube ads have gotten vey scummy too. A lot of get rich or get fit ads though I just listen to music or lectures there. And it seems common for others and now people have learned to avoid YouTube ads.

its much to expensive to promote things with small profit margins. You cant sell your 2 buck widget for 3 you have to sell it for 39.99

Re: Alphabet’s Profit Falls 34% (fourth consecutive drop) Amid Ads Slowdown

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm clicking somewhat often on youtube ads, because there's no way to escape them without the content blocker, so you have to watch the ad anyway. So if I have to wait anyway until the ad ends, I just waste aditional click. But I never buy anything nor have any interest in the advertised product. I do this mainly for 2 reasons: - waste the budget of annoying/scam ads in hope that in the future I'll see less of those…

Their model likely detected you as an outlier and might disregard your clicks

If google thought your IP was from a click farm, wouldn't it block you from youtube entirely, to avoid wasting the bandwidth?
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