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Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

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Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

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post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole idea of caring about "canon" is fundamentally bollocks anyway when it comes to stories

Reference?

History? In the days before books were common stories were not told from written pages but memory. This allowed stories to change and adapt on the storytellers whims (or forgetfulness). Eventually they were ossified in books, of which many people think they are the 'canon'.

Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#192

Glad to see this, because they have worked long and hard on this game. For the optimistic, divide ~$4m (post-tax) by team of 2 for ~20 years (they started work in 2002). They've made some money in the meantime obviously, but seeing the final profit doesn't accurately capture the overall investment. Just in case you were thinking of quitting your day job to become an overnight millionaire making indie games.

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Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#193
post #91

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They were also making 14-15K per month before that (it's mentioned in the post), so they were already extraordinarily successful as far as 2-person indie gamedev teams go.

From what?

In my days we were sending them money via Paypal and if it was above a certain amout, then they'd kindly ask for your postal address, draw you a sketch (I have three, one of them with two dwarves in minecart jumping over a ravine, one of them has a beer in his hand) along with a button.

Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#194
post #172

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The graph would be consistent with the part you quoted if the median earners were paying 33.5% tax: 41535 - (41535 * 0.335) is roughly the 27598 figure it shows for 2020. The figure only shows state and federal income tax, which adds up to 13% tax; I don't know enough about the US to now if there are other taxes which would add up to 33.5%.

The graph includes state, federal, and payroll tax. They're stacked above the income after tax. They do not add up to $41,535.

I ignored the payroll tax, because I assumed that's not counted as part of the employee's gross income?

And I agree that neither income tax nor income + payroll tax adds up to the 33.5%. I don't know if there are more taxes which need to be considered. 13% total tax seems low.

Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They said median net income, i.e. post-tax.

Which is also super wrong because median income for full time employees is $54,000

Many people are not employed though (or are children). I wonder if this figure is for every single person. Or it could just be wrong.

Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#196
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were also making 14-15K per month before that (it's mentioned in the post), so they were already extraordinarily successful as far as 2-person indie gamedev teams go.

Yeah but they were not making that much the whole time. If you look back some years they were just scraping by.

Looking at the numbers and releases I must say: If they had streamlined their release process to put out releases more often then the revenue might have been more even and better.

Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#197

Please incorporate ChatGPT into this game! Imagine the storylines!

I disagree vehemently and violently with this suggestion. Dwarf Fortress's charm results from human-crafted procedures interacting in unexpected and fascinating ways. If ChatGPT (or other AI bullshit generators) were used instead, it would change the experience entirely.

Why are you so aggressively dismissing ChatGPT? Maybe it has no place in this game but it's a technological marvel nonetheless.

Re: Bay 12 Games has made $7M from the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress

#199

Please incorporate ChatGPT into this game! Imagine the storylines!

...and NFT item store with prices in dwarfcoins?

What does NFT has to do with anything? What's with people on this site thinking one of the biggest tech revolution of our lifetime is the same as a scam that has no utility whatsoever?
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