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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by citilife »

kokanee wrote: post #149
PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

I'm less concerned about how many jobs are going to be replaced and more about how they'll be replaced.

The AI is not decerning and right in the announcement, OpenAI states it's intention on "correcting assumptions":

> challenge incorrect assumptions

I imagine some of these assumptions will be bias towards particularly ideologies / things people desire.

- https://twitter.com/Basedeyeballs/status/1613269931617050625

- https://medium.com/ninjas-take/chat-gpts-bias-is-very-very-e...

I can go on, but imagine you're relying on this system to grade papers... Now any independent thought or argument is squashed and corrections in a bias manner are added. ChatGPT only knows what it's trained on, it doesn't have real-world examples or live-time examples incorporated.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by Buttons840 »

LunarAurora wrote: post #75
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #3

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

I'll bet (ever increasing) restrictions and filters will become the norm for these "open-ended" services. Only OSS will break them. With so much money in play now, Managers are in charge, and Risk management is their favourite toy. Copyright risk, reputational risk, security risk, you name it.

Eventually they're going to connect these AI's to some sort of planning algorithm and then they'll actually be able to do things and serve as a digital assistant. (We're approaching Skynet territory here, but I think AI will remain flawed enough that it stays at subhuman intelligence.) The restrictions on such an AI will have to be extreme. But...

I predict people will pool their resources and build their own digital assistants with little regard for legalities or ethics. The assistant might require $100,000 a year to operate, but these AIs might become useful enough to justify the cost. Talk with your friends, pool your resources, and get your own AI running on your own supercomputer and let it do work for everyone -- unfettered, without ethics.

At this point it feels like we're only a research breakthrough or two away from this. AlphaGo combined a neural network with classic planning algorithms, a few more clever combinations like this an things will get really interesting.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by qup »

aeontech wrote: post #150
nickthegreek wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the same when I got midjourney last week for $30/month... and here I am loving it. Wife and I use it all the time. I can see myself picking this one up as well and probably dropping Netflix finally.

I'm really really curious how you use midjourney on a daily basis... I can see playing with it for novelty value, but after that... what? I'm sure it's a failure of imagination on my part, but when you say you might drop Netflix in favor of using the ai generator tools, my interest is piqued! What's your average play session like?

For me, I was playing with Stable Diffusion for a long time. I just liked generating the art and looking at it. I think it's about as enjoyable as netflix, more-or-less.

I have always been interested in treasure hunts, and I think SD kinda ticks that box for me. It's like thrift stores, which I also enjoy: mostly junk, but sometimes you discover something great.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by gamegoblin »

parasti wrote: post #161
gamegoblin wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT is, for most use cases, a simple conversational wrapper around GPT3.5 which is available via API. You can make your own ChatGPT by giving the following prompt to GPT3.5: The following is a transcript between a helpful AI assistant and a human. The AI assistant can provide factual information (but only from before mid 2021, when its training data cuts off), ask clarifying questions, and engage in chit chat. Tr…

This is mind-blowing to me. You can't converse with it but you can give it a prompt to generate a conversation.

LLMs, to a first approximation, literally "just" do one thing: given some text, predict the text that follows it. There is nothing magical.

It turns out you can create clever prompts that use that functionality to do a huge variety of tasks, though.

For instance, you can prompt it like:

    The following is the contents of main.py:

    ```
    
    ```

    This code will print the following:
And then GPT will do its best to predict what the code prints out. For simple programs, this will give the appearance that it is "running" the program. With copious print statements, it can actually "run" fairly complicated programs, such as Dijkstra's algorithm: https://twitter.com/GrantSlatton/status/1600950846216237057

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by ezekg »

extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

I wonder how close they are to breaking even/making a profit on $20/mo per person? I know the narrative here is that Microsoft if footing/subsidizing a massive GPU Azure bill. How massive? $10,000,000/month?

How many people do we think would convert (sign up and start paying $20/mo) next 30 days? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by qup »

fnbr wrote: post #41
VadimPR wrote: post #19

Premium pricing. I would have been okay with $10/mo, this is pushing it. Let's see how long this lasts and whether they'll introduce a lower tier.

This is very expensive to run. I bet they’re not going to have particularly high margins with this. Each response probably costs them several cents.

Altman said publicly somewhere that each chat session cost them a few cents. He didn't mention the average length or anything.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by generalizations »

frontman1988 wrote: post #61
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #3

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

Never gonna come from 'OpenAI'. ChatGPT is deliberately handicapped in order to milk money from corporate America. An unrestricted LLM trained on all data of humanity (including all the pirated books/research papers) would be one crazy beast. Hopefully some rich anarchist/maverick actually builds something like it. That untamed model would unveil the true extent of what AI can really do. Till then we will have to wai…

I'm right there with you. Give it about 5-10 years though, and the compute required for that endeavor will likely be in the $1000-10,000 range. That crazy beast might be selfhosted pretty soon.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by kokanee »

vasco wrote: post #171
kokanee wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

> and now we're handing the power to replace human work over to those who can afford to pay for it. All technological advances through the ages have been doing this in one way or another. For some things people paid with their health or effort and for others people pay with money when that was available. I disagree with the "now". This is no different from a car. You seemed to say that in the middle of your comment b…

Fair; I think my poorly-articulated concern is that there seems to be a healthy pace of technological change at which our productivity increases but people have time to adapt and modernize their income streams. If technology replaces human work too quickly, people don't have time to adapt, and the middle class disappears. I don't even see a solution at this point, but keeping the technology free would at least not make the problem worse.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by qorrect »

kokanee wrote: post #149
PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

I'm extremely worried. This tech is going to replace a lot of jobs in the next 10-20, including ours ( software ). And if not replace, it's going to cut the available positions drastically. We already have a great divide between those with money and those without and this is a nuclear bomb about to go off. Without any sort of UBI or social safety nets, this is going to be a true disaster.
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