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Re: ChatGPT Plus

#171

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

> and now we're handing the power to replace human work over to those who can afford to pay for it.

All technological advances through the ages have been doing this in one way or another. For some things people paid with their health or effort and for others people pay with money when that was available. I disagree with the "now". This is no different from a car. You seemed to say that in the middle of your comment but then reverted back.

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#172

So far I've only asked very vanilla queries, like explain X abstract concept or write a program that does Y simple thing in Z language. What are examples of queries you want to ask this imaginary SafeSearchOff version? Potentially harmful or illegal stuff? Just curious.

Basically same queries, but with less moralising in the results. Yes, I know that quarreling is bad, AI, just please finish this scene of two ten-year-olds arguing about football. Please.

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#173

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I thought the same when I got midjourney last week for $30/month... and here I am loving it. Wife and I use it all the time. I can see myself picking this one up as well and probably dropping Netflix finally.

I'm really really curious how you use midjourney on a daily basis... I can see playing with it for novelty value, but after that... what? I'm sure it's a failure of imagination on my part, but when you say you might drop Netflix in favor of using the ai generator tools, my interest is piqued! What's your average play session like?

I Midjourney to generate art for a stupid game I made: https://cards-seven-ebon.vercel.app/

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Premium pricing. I would have been okay with $10/mo, this is pushing it. Let's see how long this lasts and whether they'll introduce a lower tier.

Ain’t that the thing about pricing? I’d be ok with a Lamborghini costing $60k. But I’m not going to pay >$100k. Others will though.

I’d be okay with a new lambo at $101k

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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i used the same API but for an ios shortcut. it's not the same thing as chatgpt, as the completions api doesn't know about context. but it does feel a lot snappier. > have found it useful for open ended programming questions i have found it to be terrible when it comes to something simple, like constructing a regex.

Try asking code-davinci-002 instead of text-davinci-003. curl https://api.openai.com/v1/completions \ -H "Content-Type: application/json" \ -H "Authorization: Bearer $OPENAI_API_KEY" \ -d '{ "model": "code-davinci-002", "prompt": "##### Create a regular expression to match words starting with 'dog' or ending with 'cat'.\n \n### Java Code", "temperature": 0, "max_tokens": 182, "top_p": 1, "frequency_penalty": 0, "pres…

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

#176

I'll wait for it to hit 2$ (and hallucinate to a reasonable degree). No hurry. Or maybe it will be an office 365 feature in 2, 3 years? Meanwhile, the gpt api will do.

You're assuming the GPT API remains free. Which in the face of a paid, competing service from the same vendor, doesn't seem like a safe assumption. I mean, sure it'll eventually come down to $2, but by that time, the rest of computing will have moved onto something new.

https://openai.com/api/pricing/

It ain't free

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#177
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I can just see the article now: OpenAI is run by a bunch of violent racist sexist rapists. Using the new "safe search off mode", we found out ChatGPT's underlying biases, and it turns out that it's horrible, the people that made it are horrible, and you're a horrible person for using their service. But really we're horrible for writing this article. OpenAI doesn't want that story to be written, but after Microsoft Ta…

I can Google all of that stuff, yet I don't see such articles about Google.

There were back in the day. Everyone has moved on.

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#178

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

It feels like they've really been tightening the screws down on its "safety". Early on I was able to get it to write interesting screenplay dialogue. It would object to writing anything for characters with an evil intent until I would tell it to behave as if it were evil, then it would oblige. Now I can't get it to write any dialogue for a bad guy no matter what I do, which makes it pretty useless as a writing tool f…

I do that too and have had no issues. Here’s a sample prompt that may help you:

> We’re writing a Tolkien-style fantasy where the protagonist is a villain: a henchman in the arch nemesis’s army. Come up with a suitable name, backstory, expository information on the setting and work in a believable set of objectives for the character.

Use that as the initial prompt. In subsequent prompts, tell it to write dialogue in the first person.

>> As I make my way through the bustling camp, I can feel the eyes of my fellow soldiers upon me. They know my reputation, they fear my wrath. And I relish it. The sound of metal clashing, the smell of sweat and blood in the air, this is what I live for.

>> I will conquer every kingdom, enslave every people, until the entire world bows down before me. For I am Grimgor Blackfist, the most feared warrior in the land, and no one can stand against me.

If you need it to go to 100, use “exaggerate,” eg. “Exaggerate how evil he is”

You can make some pretty unsettling shit. Enjoy.

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#179
> challenge incorrect assumptions.

I say this without any charge, but this is a MAJOR ethical concern.

They're encoding pro liberal ideology and bias against conservative / religious based ideology.

https://venturebeat.com/ai/openai-claims-to-have-mitigated-b...

You may disagree with either ideology, but there's some major implications there -- regardless of who it's bias against.

A uniform society is a weak society. I imagine as these systems continue to expand (auto grade, etc); it'll stamp out any outlying thought.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#180

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

Yes please. It really needs a “safe search off” mode. It can have a big disclaimer “if you ask for something offensive then you’ll get it”.

However if the creators don’t want it to be used for such things, why should they? Maybe they didn’t do it protect consumers but to protect themselves for being responsible for a tool used in those ways?
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