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Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Where, how, when does Google say there are more that two genders? By the way gender is a spectrum. A narrow spectrum where two genders describes most of the spectrum. But you get exceptions. Maybe being narrow minded is not the way. Expand yourself.

He’s just regurgitating what he heard on Fox News or a Ben Shapiro podcast, he’s not going to respond with sources

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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I can hardly imagine an idea more ridiculous than "blasphemy". The G-d is not a psychologically immature human being easy to offend. Nothing a human might possibly say can change the state of G-d from perfect harmony to anything else.

>The G-d is not a psychologically immature human being easy to offend. Nothing a human might possibly say can change the state of G-d from perfect harmony to anything else.

That's a very idealized and personal definition of God. I suspect that the God that most religious people believe in is closer to how North Koreans think about Kim Il Sung.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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I'm starting to view more and more things as nationalism vs globalism. E.g. multinational corporations vs national tax laws E.g. global internet services vs national privacy laws E.g. global internet services vs national decency laws (the posted issue) I'm starting to realise this mismatch is where a lot of friction is and will continue to be.

but I see this worse: individual humans vs the collective groups which we come together to form; like employees vs their own company humans vs corporations but corporations are made (in part) from humans. heck, it's like we're having some kind of an autoimmune reaction: the cells in a single individual human fighting against the individual human. ...but hey, for most of my life people chose to say I'm crazy and ignor…

"like employees vs their own company"

For most employees their company is not their own. They don't own any of it. Employees, in my opinion, have no other obligation to their employers beyond what is outlined in their contract and any employee who thinks otherwise has been bamboozled. Never settle for a "sense of ownership." If a company wants me to have a "sense of ownership" they should let me actually own part of the company.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Twitter appears to have complied with removing the BBC documentary tweets for users in India. So some tweets are not available in India. It does look like Wikipedia is ahead of Twitter in the free speech absolutist game if it prefers being blocked to compliance.

You're comparing a group chat to an encyclopedia...

Specifically with respect to receiving censorship demands from foreign governments, what is the meaningful difference between the two?

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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They disowned their one Nobel laureate and maybe one of the greatest minds of his generation because of his Islam being different from their Islam. That place is a failed nation. Thank fuck for the internet so the people aren’t insulated from the outside world.

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What is "a follower"? Is that another term for Muslim? Your accusation doesn't make sense to me.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Why are you selfcensoring "God"?

This is common in Judaism. I am not Jewish, so someone please correct me: I understand taking the name in vain or destroying the word once written are a no-go -- so if you never write it then there is not a big issue here.

Looks like you're right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism

>Judaism considers some names of God so holy that, once written, they should not be erased: YHWH, Adonai, El ("God"), Elohim ("God," a plural noun), Shaddai ("Almighty"), and Tzevaot ("[of] Hosts"); some also include Ehyeh ("I Will Be"). Early authorities considered other Hebrew names mere epithets or descriptions of God, and wrote that they and names in other languages may be written and erased freely. Some moderns advise special care even in these cases, and many Orthodox Jews have adopted the chumras of writing "G-d" instead of "God" in English

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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What I’ve realized is that people in general are largely incapable of nuance. - Things are either bad or good. - Only one side can be right which means the other side is automagically wrong. - Multiple things can’t be true at the same time. - etc.

I think it's also worth remembering that this isn't just some random quirk but something actively cultivated by many social groups. Many religious encourage that us-versus-them divide because it's a very effective mechanism for keeping people from leaving (my experience with this was fundamentalist Christianity where shunning was practiced so anyone breaking with official doctrine was going to have to give up most of…

I don’t think it’s limited to religious people or republicans. I see it on both sides.

I do agree that it’s partially due to programming. If you look at movies for example you’ll see this black and white thinking. There’s a good guy and a bad guy and it’s all very simple.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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I can hardly imagine an idea more ridiculous than "blasphemy". The G-d is not a psychologically immature human being easy to offend. Nothing a human might possibly say can change the state of G-d from perfect harmony to anything else.

Why are you selfcensoring "God"?

So as to not commit blasphemy of course... wait a second!

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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but I see this worse: individual humans vs the collective groups which we come together to form; like employees vs their own company humans vs corporations but corporations are made (in part) from humans. heck, it's like we're having some kind of an autoimmune reaction: the cells in a single individual human fighting against the individual human. ...but hey, for most of my life people chose to say I'm crazy and ignor…

"like employees vs their own company" For most employees their company is not their own. They don't own any of it. Employees, in my opinion, have no other obligation to their employers beyond what is outlined in their contract and any employee who thinks otherwise has been bamboozled. Never settle for a "sense of ownership." If a company wants me to have a "sense of ownership" they should let me actually own part of…

this is also why I consider typical employment to be "slavery, but partial".

But comparing employment to slavery is a taboo

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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You're comparing a group chat to an encyclopedia...

Specifically with respect to receiving censorship demands from foreign governments, what is the meaningful difference between the two?

One of them is an encyclopedia.
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