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Hermes: An open-source document management system

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Re: Hermes: An open-source document management system

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The problem with versioning & management systems for docs is that you need the process to drive the adoption. Getting people to version, approve, and fully manage a document database is the hard part. Many companies do not even adequately document - they just send information in a Slack/Teams message and nothing is written down for later (this is why startups like Glean exist: https://www.glean.com/ ). There are mass…

This is painfully accurate. I setup Alfresco for our company, and I used the versioning tools etc. while doing documentation.

A few years after I moved out of documentation I went back to Alfresco to download a document, only to find none of the tools still in use. jessica_edit_v2_final.pdf type documents all over my beautiful server!

Re: Hermes: An open-source document management system

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The problem with versioning & management systems for docs is that you need the process to drive the adoption. Getting people to version, approve, and fully manage a document database is the hard part. Many companies do not even adequately document - they just send information in a Slack/Teams message and nothing is written down for later (this is why startups like Glean exist: https://www.glean.com/ ). There are mass…

This is typically what happens unless the users of the software really need it. For example the concept of folders is really outdated, but good luck getting people to use a good tagging system to replace it.

Law firms are heavy users of a DMS, especially versioning. Insurance companies use it too, but probably not versioning. So there are customers, but quite specific.

Most people have only interacted with file management systems, which are far more basic in their functionality.

Re: Hermes: An open-source document management system

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I read through the project as I worked with several document storage solution before and still lookin for an ideal solution. Filenet is horribly overpriced from IBM, Alfresco looks nice but have serious performance issues (my experience is from 2020), SharePoint is only nice if everything is Microsoft... Apache Oak is an abandoned project with a lot of things that seems to be in it but didnt get finished (e.g. CMIS p…

There's also Mayan EDMS [1]. I have no experience with it, but looks sensible from the outside. [1] https://www.mayan-edms.com/

Considering it’s only one person working on it, Mayan is pretty impressive.

However, support isn’t great. I’ve been stuck on a 7 year old version because the upgrade path past 2.8 is very murky and I’ve been unable to figure it out to date. Older versions of the docs have just vanished from the internet. There was a Tim when the lead had health issues and it halted development for several months (glad he recovered though, seems fine now, but it all depends on the one person)

It’s stuck running on an Ubuntu 16.04 VM that I can’t update and is heavily firewalled because of that.

If I were starting over I’d be using paperless-my instead.

Note this is for personal use, I scan everything and destroy the documents but it amounts to maybe 10–20 documents a week at most.

Re: Hermes: An open-source document management system

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I read through the project as I worked with several document storage solution before and still lookin for an ideal solution. Filenet is horribly overpriced from IBM, Alfresco looks nice but have serious performance issues (my experience is from 2020), SharePoint is only nice if everything is Microsoft... Apache Oak is an abandoned project with a lot of things that seems to be in it but didnt get finished (e.g. CMIS p…

> SharePoint is only nice if everything is Microsoft... Respectfully, I’d never describe Sharepoint as nice. It’s been hell since the first time I encountered it 15 years ago.

Given the target market, I don't find Sharepoint that bad given the alternative offerings on the enterprise space.

All of them have different levels of pain.

Re: Hermes: An open-source document management system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with that stack and how are they incompatible?

Incompatible was a bad choice of words. What I meant was, it's random parts from a junk yard masquerading as a novel technical solution to a business problem, when in fact it's a CRUD app wrapping an existing product in a way other solutions already can, yet requires more maintenance, and has no additional powers of integration to make its adoption worthwhile. Basically you could implement the same thing yourself in…

> tiny company’s pet project

It’s a stock market listed billion dollar company with 2000 employees. I would not call that tiny.

Re: Hermes: An open-source document management system

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Looks awesome, it looks like it could support more backends, as long as they expose some API's:

- microsoft office - confluence - markdown?

I wonder if it exposes a good interface to implement different backends.

I think if the search works well, it can be of great help!

Congrats for the launch!

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