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Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by cf100clunk »

shzhdbi09gv8ioi wrote: post #55
cf100clunk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even during Debian's systemd adoption wars I'd never seen any argument calling into question Devuan as ''disreputable''. After all, it was a group of experienced Debian folks that made a systemd-less version of Debian that compares almost exactly with Debian's status and capabilities. I hope in your case you have not been forced to use Devuan.

Hit me up when you finally notice that enterprise and seniors embraced systemd years ago while you kept avoiding change.

You implied that Devuan is disreputable.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by znpy »

I just recently decided I’ll be switching all my desktop computing to fedora.

The xfce spin is okay, everything i need is in the repo and for everything else there’s flatpak.

F@@k snap.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by SteveNuts »

nickjj wrote: post #59

I've been running Debian stable on servers for like 8 years now. Up until recently I had a server running Debian Jessie with 1,802 days of uptime. It served a decent amount of traffic. Services on there ran unattended for literally years and it was rock solid. I ended up decommissioning the server because for the same price I could get better hardware specs so I made a new server and put on Debian Bullseye (the lates…

You didn't patch in almost 5 years?

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by horsawlarway »

cf100clunk wrote: post #18
discreditable wrote: post #16

Look no further than Debian. After switching from Ubuntu I started to understand why people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty.

> people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty Look even further at Devuan, made by people who conder Debian as a bit dirty. (I use both as needed, I'm just riffing on your comment)

Personally - I think the step away from systemd is a fairly huge mistake.

I understand that legacy users and orgs may have vested interests in sticking with older init systems, but personally I think systemd solves a challenging problem space in a very easy to use manner.

I much prefer writing a systemd unit file than having to wade into sysvinit or runit.

Politics aside - I just find systemd far easier to work with.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by 404mm »

I dislike Ubuntu for the same reasons and I can recommend two paths:

For environments where you expect and appreciate stability- Debian. Hands down. Your initial feel is going to be like a leaner Ubuntu with a few extra steps (non free drivers or software). Very low learning curve.

If you don’t mind “staying on top of your OS and packages”, then I’d recommend Arch Linux for desktop (not server). There is never “end of support of any release” because it’s a rolling release distro. Do your updates regularly and you’ll be good to go. They have one of the best wiki in the Linux world and it’s a low maintenance distro once you set it all up. A bit steep learning curve at first but I’d argue that this learning is beneficial to general understanding of Linux.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by 0xEFF »

nickjj wrote: post #59

I've been running Debian stable on servers for like 8 years now. Up until recently I had a server running Debian Jessie with 1,802 days of uptime. It served a decent amount of traffic. Services on there ran unattended for literally years and it was rock solid. I ended up decommissioning the server because for the same price I could get better hardware specs so I made a new server and put on Debian Bullseye (the lates…

For production servers, the trade offs Debian makes are better than the trade offs Ubuntu makes.

This has held consistently true for as long as Ubuntu has existed.

In recent years this is also true on the desktop.

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