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Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by perihelions »

- "something that will be stable and supported for the next twenty years"

Then the safest bet is to choose something that was popular and stable twenty years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect ("...the longer a period something has survived to exist or be used in the present, the longer its remaining life expectancy")

You *probably* just want Debian. There's many reasonable options but that one's the Schelling point for this question (I think).

edit: Here's the list of Slashdot linux threads from 2003. I think anything flamed in there that's still around is a Lindy candidate.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:linux.slashdot.org/stor...

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by shzhdbi09gv8ioi »

cf100clunk wrote: post #18
discreditable wrote: post #16

Look no further than Debian. After switching from Ubuntu I started to understand why people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty.

> people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty Look even further at Devuan, made by people who conder Debian as a bit dirty. (I use both as needed, I'm just riffing on your comment)

Where Debian is a reputable distribution with a clear goal, the Devuan crew is solving a non-issue by means of almost religious levels of resistance toward systemd.

If you want technological merit, chose Debian. If you want to join the conservatives of Linux, you should go for Devuan.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by hanniabu »

vorticalbox wrote: post #30
hanniabu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, if there's one thing open source projects are known for, it's dated websites

> isn't broken don't fix it Though in this case it's likely to keep it accessible to people we slow internet connections.

It's 1.4mb for an incredibly simple page, and a modern design doesn't mean it needs to be some bloated webapp

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by Keyframe »

As personal/work OS, I ran Fedora for eons and then I moved to Pop which was great. However, while waiting for next iteration (22.10 omitted), I briefly distro hopper again. Fedora, fine but I had various dmaller issues that I knew I wouldn't on debian/pop. Tried Alma, but same thing. In the end I defaulted to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS + Lambda Stack. So far so good, albeit a bit boring which is fine in my book. I'll see where Pop and Alma go next. Watching those two basically, until then - Ubuntu+Lambda.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by horsawlarway »

I think Debian/Fedora(or RedHat if you're willing to pay) are fine on the enterprise side.

For personal use... I fell in love with Arch. Between the Arch User Repository (AUR) and the quick upgrades, I really struggle to use anything else these days.

Arch takes a bit more work to get online than some of the other distros, but I've been amazingly happy running it across all my personal machines (from desktops to laptops to servers to media machines) - It's a fantastic engine to build a machine around, but you will have to do a bit of building.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by FpUser »

I have about the same feeling. Leaning towards Debian. My infra allows automatic build / deploy on dedicated servers and I made sure that it works on Ubuntu, Debian, Arch and Mint. Not looking forward to Arch for production obviously.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by captn3m0 »

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #26

I have anecdotal evidence that many people moved from Debian to ArchLinix over the last 5..10 years. ArchLinux is the unassuming kind of distro that gives way to upstream.

One such user. Switched to Arch almost a decade ago (from Ubuntu->Mint->PopOS), and now on Asahi Linux (which is just ArchARM with a small overlay of 15-20 driver/kernel packages).

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by aquova »

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #26

I have anecdotal evidence that many people moved from Debian to ArchLinix over the last 5..10 years. ArchLinux is the unassuming kind of distro that gives way to upstream.

Steam's platform survey would agree with you. Ubuntu share has been decreasing steadily over the years while Arch/Manjaro has gone up (not even counting Steam Deck)

I am one of them, having switched from Ubuntu to Arch two or so years ago due to frustrations with the platform. Arch is a bit more hands on, especially at first install, but it has solved all my complaints from Ubuntu. If OP is interested, I would recommend looking at EndeavourOS, which is probably the most friendly way to get into the Arch ecosystem, without it getting in the way.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by johnklos »

Honestly, if you want steady progress and consistency, if you want changes that are thought out, well reasoned, discussed and sensibly implemented, you should consider the BSDs.

Even ignoring the systemd stuff separating Linux from the rest of the world, there are just so many ways all these Linux distros are trying, often gratuitously, to differentiate themselves from each other. Often it's sloppy, and the end result is that it affects upgraders (long time users) much more than new people, because they're so focused on attracting new people and therefore test new installs so much.

A Linux admin from the '90s would be lost on a modern Linux distro. A BSD admin from the '90s would have plenty to learn, but most of it would still be quite usable.

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